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Old 09-13-2017, 09:53 PM  
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The Ben Shapiro Appreciation Thread.

I've been watching alot of his debates lately and all I can say is WOW! I agree with him about 85% of the time but his intelligence and ability to frame an argument is impressive. Conservatism in America is a dying breed. We need people with Shaprios ability to save us.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:11 AM   #16
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No, no it wouldn't.

This Nazi, racist infatuation needs to be shouted down. There is not one redeeming thing these animals offer society.
Are you so incompetent you can't win an argument against a white supremacist?

Let them talk. Let them write books. Let them give speeches. Christ, they only dig themselves deeper. Oprah realized this when she went on a rampage of bringing KKK members onto her show only to watch them self immolate under their own stupidity.

Shutting them down has only had a consequence of making their rhetoric MORE appealing, particularly to rebellious youth. How are you not recognizing this pattern?
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:12 AM   #17
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Meh, we tried ignoring the Nazis in the 30's. It didn't pan out too well.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:22 AM   #18
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No, no it wouldn't.

This Nazi, racist infatuation needs to be shouted down. There is not one redeeming thing these animals offer society.
So? We let you live in America too.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:25 AM   #19
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Are you so incompetent you can't win an argument against a white supremacist?

Let them talk. Let them write books. Let them give speeches. Christ, they only dig themselves deeper. Oprah realized this when she went on a rampage of bringing KKK members onto her show only to watch them self immolate under their own stupidity.

Shutting them down has only had a consequence of making their rhetoric MORE appealing, particularly to rebellious youth. How are you not recognizing this pattern?
I have no problem with any of this. Write your books, make your hate filled posts on social media, it's your right. Just don't expect silence and acceptance from the overwhelming majority of the US.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:25 AM   #20
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Meh, we tried ignoring the Nazis in the 30's. It didn't pan out too well.
Re read your history books.

Resistance and violence against the brownshirts made them appear sympathetic and directly resulted in the Nazi party rising to power.

What is happening in the US is not the same thing.

You people are in a moral panic. Calm down and watch less TV.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:28 AM   #21
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I have no problem with any of this. Write your books, make your hate filled posts on social media, it's your right. Just don't expect silence and acceptance from the overwhelming majority of the US.
Yes, but that's not what we're doing.

If it was, this wouldn't be a growing movement.

I'm all for naming and shaming people who show up to a rally flying a Nazi flag, but I'm never going to support violent retribution as a punishment for wrong-think. No matter how wrong the thinking is.

Using mob tactics to shut people down is part of the problem.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:30 AM   #22
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And I support dragging forth morans like PB to the public square to defend their actions. Then ridicule them for the pea brains they are.

But when Nazis are holding a recruiting rally, then they need to be met with a group of protestors large enough to show how tiny their support is. Then they are left with only one option, that of returning to the shadows and wearing their hoods as the only recourse.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:32 AM   #23
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Yes, but that's not what we're doing.

If it was, this wouldn't be a growing movement.

I'm all for naming and shaming people who show up to a rally flying a Nazi flag, but I'm never going to support violent retribution as a punishment for wrong-think. No matter how wrong the thinking is.

Using mob tactics to shut people down is part of the problem.
I agree
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:33 AM   #24
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And I support dragging forth morans like PB to the public square to defend their actions. Then ridicule them for the pea brains they are.

But when Nazis are holding a recruiting rally, then they need to be met with a group of protestors large enough to show how tiny their support is. Then they are left with only one option, that of returning to the shadows and wearing their hoods as the only recourse.
*sigh*

Nazis didn't wear hoods, and the KKK and Nazis are not connected. Stop conflating all of these groups. I know why you do it, and you gotta stop. That's part of the problem.

I don't agree with your support of using intimidation. I think mockery has proven to be a FAR better tool. YOUR tactics have only caused these sentiments to escalate. My suggested method led to about 30-40 years of these ideas being entirely marginalized.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:35 AM   #25
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*sigh*

Nazis didn't wear hoods, and the KKK and Nazis are not connected. Stop conflating all of these groups. I know why you do it, and you gotta stop. That's part of the problem.

I don't agree with your support of using intimidation. I think mockery has proven to be a FAR better tool. YOUR tactics have only caused these sentiments to escalate. My method led to about 30-40 years of these ideas being entirely marginalized.
You think Nazis and KKK membership is mutually exclusive?

Ok then...
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:40 AM   #26
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You think Nazis and KKK membership is mutually exclusive?

Ok then...
Nothing I said implies that, but whatever.

They're different groups. Different national origins. Different goals. Different political beliefs. One is a specific political party from a different country that has been defunct for 80 freaking years.

Again, I know why you conflate them, but it's part of the problem. Every racist you meet isn't a Nazi.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:48 AM   #27
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Also, why are we talking about Nazis in a thread about Ben Shapiro?

I'm pretty sure the observant Jew doesn't support nazis.

Just an assumption.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:51 AM   #28
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Nothing I said implies that, but whatever.

They're different groups. Different national origins. Different goals. Different political beliefs. One is a specific political party from a different country that has been defunct for 80 freaking years.

Again, I know why you conflate them, but it's part of the problem. Every racist you meet isn't a Nazi.
Speaking of assumptions...
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Re read your history books.

Resistance and violence against the brownshirts made them appear sympathetic...
Not really, dog.
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Also, why are we talking about Nazis in a thread about Ben Shapiro?

I'm pretty sure the observant Jew doesn't support nazis.

Just an assumption.
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