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Old 04-18-2005, 05:45 PM  
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Good night of viewing on the history channel. At 7 pm C there is a repeat of the special on Hitler's secret to Mein Kampf that was never published because it was a military plan for Germany to rule the world. Following at 8 pm C is the conclusion to their documentary on FDR.
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:13 PM   #16
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:16 PM   #17
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Nope. Me too. Absolutely addictive.
Same here. I watched most of the episodes that aired over the last few days, and I have the DVD set downstairs.

Never gets old. What an amazing series.
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:49 PM   #18
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The history channels show on WWII sherman tanks was good.

Sherman tanks = ***T. Those guys were outgunned and it took 2 or 3 U.S tanks to take out a German tank using a plan of encircling the enemy and hitting their tank from behind. The German guy they said their tanks were better but there were too many Shermans.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:10 AM   #19
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The history channels show on WWII sherman tanks was good.

Sherman tanks = ***T. Those guys were outgunned and it took 2 or 3 U.S tanks to take out a German tank using a plan of encircling the enemy and hitting their tank from behind. The German guy they said their tanks were better but there were too many Shermans.
Not even close. German tanks were considerably superior. The Tiger, especially, had some serious drawbacks in terms of logistics and support, but was easily king of the battlefield. But the Russians were cranking out T-34s and the Americans Shermans in far, FAR superior numbers.

Here's a good site:

1943 Tank Production:

Soviet T-34 (a tank better than anything the Americans had): 15,820

American Sherman M4: 21,231


German Panzer III, IV, Panthers, Tigers (Total): about 12,000 (and I'm being generous in counting some platforms that might not normally be considered as basic tanks).

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of...-war-ii-topics

Other reasons why the Axis lost the war:

1943 Aircraft Production (all types):

UK: 26,263
US: 85,895
USSR: 34,900

Total Allies: 147,058

Germany: 15,409
Japan: 8,861

Total Axis: 24,270


1944 was 163,079 to 68,773.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:16 AM   #20
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Not even close. German tanks were considerably superior. The Tiger, especially, had some serious drawbacks in terms of logistics and support, but was easily king of the battlefield. But the Russians were cranking out T-34s and the Americans Shermans in far, FAR superior numbers.

Here's a good site:

1943 Tank Production:

Soviet T-34 (a tank better than anything the Americans had): 15,820

American Sherman M4: 21,231


German Panzer III, IV, Panthers, Tigers (Total): about 12,000 (and I'm being generous in counting some platforms that might not normally be considered as basic tanks).

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of...-war-ii-topics

Other reasons why the Axis lost the war:

1943 Aircraft Production (all types):

UK: 26,263
US: 85,895
USSR: 34,900

Total Allies: 147,058

Germany: 15,409
Japan: 8,861

Total Axis: 24,270


1944 was 163,079 to 68,773.
Germany didn't run out of planes. They ran out of pilots. The US rotated their pilots back home to train more pilots but Germany didn't and so ran out.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:21 AM   #21
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Germany didn't run out of planes. They ran out of pilots. The US rotated their pilots back home to train more pilots but Germany didn't and so ran out.
Pilots were a problem, but the nature of this changed over time:

1. During the Battle of Britain, German planes that were shot down over England or the Channel tended to either die or be captured by the Brits. UK pilots, of course, either died (or were injured) or landed safely and were available to fly again. The Luftwaffe's tremendous losses in the 1940 timeframe were as much or more from lost pilots as the planes themselves.

2. Later in the war, German pilots were more frequently recovered because they were fighting over continental Europe.

3. I do agree that German policy regarding pilot training might not have been the best. It doesn't really matter, though, the Germans could never have matched Allied aircraft construction levels.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:12 AM   #22
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Same here. I watched most of the episodes that aired over the last few days, and I have the DVD set downstairs.

Never gets old. What an amazing series.
My favorite parts are still the opening segments with the real guys. For some reason, I can't change the channel when they are talking.
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:05 AM   #23
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Not even close. German tanks were considerably superior. The Tiger, especially, had some serious drawbacks in terms of logistics and support, but was easily king of the battlefield. But the Russians were cranking out T-34s and the Americans Shermans in far, FAR superior numbers.

Here's a good site:

1943 Tank Production:

Soviet T-34 (a tank better than anything the Americans had): 15,820

American Sherman M4: 21,231


German Panzer III, IV, Panthers, Tigers (Total): about 12,000 (and I'm being generous in counting some platforms that might not normally be considered as basic tanks).

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of...-war-ii-topics

Other reasons why the Axis lost the war:

1943 Aircraft Production (all types):

UK: 26,263
US: 85,895
USSR: 34,900

Total Allies: 147,058

Germany: 15,409
Japan: 8,861

Total Axis: 24,270


1944 was 163,079 to 68,773.
Overall the Sherman was produced 10x more than the Tiger. The US also developed a heavy tank near the end of the war called the Pershing I believe. She was produced in quantities for one year what the Germans were able to produce for the entire war for Tigers.
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Good night of viewing on the history channel. At 7 pm C there is a repeat of the special on Hitler's secret to Mein Kampf that was never published because it was a military plan for Germany to rule the world. Following at 8 pm C is the conclusion to their documentary on FDR.
I'm also looking forward to the FDR flick on HBO. Looks to have good acting and some "before he was the man" background...
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:33 PM   #26
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I'm also looking forward to the FDR flick on HBO. Looks to have good acting and some "before he was the man" background...
I thought it portrayed too much of the negative. They spent about the last five minutes saying he was a great president. They also thought he should have used his political capital to turn to civil rights. With the depression still on high and a world war looming that nobody wanted us to get into, he needed to keep his strength to get the military back into shape and to keep the lines with England open. If he had gone after civil rights at that time, its not assured he could have even been succcessful. He would have kissed lend/lease goodbye and our new isolationist president of 1940, Wendall Wilkie, had never held office and would have been commander in chief at a time when the Japanese demanded we surrender our pacific bases including Pearl Harbor, to the Japanese. We would not have gone to war until Germany had pacified Europe and Hitler had completed his fleet of long range bombers and a fleet of battleships larger than the Bismark. As the President, you have to know what battles you need to fight, and what battles you can win.
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