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Old 03-22-2009, 12:15 AM  
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The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



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Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

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Old 05-15-2017, 02:55 PM   #661
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Here is my updated draft.

Draft
1 (10) Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech
2 (59) Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova
3 (104) Vince Biegel, OLB, Wisconsin
4 (132) Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan
4 (139) Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida
5 (183) Ukeme Eligwe, ILB, Georgia Southern
6 (218) Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota
7 (245) Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
Changing it yet again.

Draft
1 (10) Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech
2 (59) Tanoh, Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova
3 (104) Dorian Johnson, OG, Pittsburgh
4 (132) Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan
4 (139) Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida
5 (183) Ukeme Eligwe, ILB, Georgia Southern
6 (218) Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota
7 (245) Keion Adams, OLB, Western Michigan
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:39 AM   #662
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I agree bout Mack pest but something bout Hunt every time I watch him reminds me of Emmit Smith's elusiveness.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:20 PM   #663
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:11 PM   #664
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Ok. LA Cobras draft 2017

We accept A and B trade reject C and TE wasn't on our team


1st: QB: Pat Mahomes Texas Tech

2nd: DE: Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova

3rd: RB: Kareem Hunt Toledo

5th: DT: Caleb Brantley Florida

5th: WR: Robert Davis Georgia State

6th: WR: Gabe Marks Washington State

6th: OT: Chad Wheeler USC

I'm gonna accept the undrafted free agents chiefs add as well as free agents. Then I'll cut it down before season
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Old 06-25-2017, 02:11 PM   #665
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Question 937...

If the Chiefs drafted a player that you chose not to draft (e.g. Ramik Wilson) and they subsequently release that player but later re-sign him to the roster or practice squad, can you choose to then add that player as a free agent addition since they technically are a FA at that point?
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:12 PM   #666
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Question 937...

If the Chiefs drafted a player that you chose not to draft (e.g. Ramik Wilson) and they subsequently release that player but later re-sign him to the roster or practice squad, can you choose to then add that player as a free agent addition since they technically are a FA at that point?
Hmm, my take on that is that they're signing him because they know him from drafting him. I don't think it's come up as an issue before, but I'd vote that we can't pick up a Chiefs player we didn't draft unless they play at least a season with another team. Does that sound reasonable?
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Hmm, my take on that is that they're signing him because they know him from drafting him. I don't think it's come up as an issue before, but I'd vote that we can't pick up a Chiefs player we didn't draft unless they play at least a season with another team. Does that sound reasonable?
I don't know that I would say a season, but what if they have to be picked up by another team, released, and re-acquired by KC? At least at this juncture, there'd be a transfer of contractual rights to the player to another team at least once.

This would effectively stop anyone from picking up players that are bounced between the active roster and the PS as well, since the player has to clear waivers in that process and is effectively a FA when signed in either direction.

Basically, we're setting the following ways to add players to your roster:
1. Draft a player.
2. The Chiefs sign a free agent that had prior contractual obligations to another team to their active roster.
3. The Chiefs sign an undrafted free agent to their active roster.
Any of the above may first go to the practice squad, then to the active roster, but the other prerequisites must hold.

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Old 06-27-2017, 05:09 PM   #668
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I don't know that I would say a season, but what if they have to be picked up by another team, released, and re-acquired by KC? At least at this juncture, there'd be a transfer of contractual rights to the player to another team at least once.

This would effectively stop anyone from picking up players that are bounced between the active roster and the PS as well, since the player has to clear waivers in that process and is effectively a FA when signed in either direction.

Basically, we're setting the following ways to add players to your roster:
1. Draft a player.
2. The Chiefs sign a free agent that had prior contractual obligations to another team to their active roster.
3. The Chiefs sign an undrafted free agent to their active roster.
Any of the above may first go to the practice squad, then to the active roster, but the other prerequisites must hold.
That seems reasonable. I think the spirit of the rule is that, in the long run, we're creating our own drafted team, and this works as a clarification to the existing rules. Let's do a pilot test this year with this rule in place to see if it creates any problems or dilemmas.
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That seems reasonable. I think the spirit of the rule is that, in the long run, we're creating our own drafted team, and this works as a clarification to the existing rules. Let's do a pilot test this year with this rule in place to see if it creates any problems or dilemmas.
I can't fathom that there will be too many situations where someone would be able to pick up a player under this method. The most recent example would be Knile Davis but I don't recall any others of late.
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