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Old 06-26-2017, 09:45 AM  
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SCOTUS partially reinstates Trump travel ban

Court partly reinstates Trump travel ban, fall arguments set

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press

The Supreme Court is letting the Trump administration enforce its 90-day ban on travelers from six mostly Muslim countries, overturning lower court orders that blocked it. The action Monday, June 26, 2017, is a victory for President Donald Trump in the biggest legal controversy of his young presidency.


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is letting a limited version of the Trump administration ban on travel from six mostly Muslim countries to take effect, a victory for President Donald Trump in the biggest legal controversy of his young presidency.

The court said Monday the ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen could be enforced as long as they lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States." The justices will hear arguments in the case in October.

Trump said last week that the ban would take effect 72 hours after being cleared by courts.

The Trump administration said the 90-day ban was needed to allow an internal review of the screening procedures for visa applicants from those countries. That review should be complete before Oct. 2, the first day the justices could hear arguments in their new term.

A 120-ban on refugees also is being allowed to take effect on a limited basis. Three of the court's conservative justices said they would have let the complete bans take effect.

Justice Clarence Thomas, joined by Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, said the government has shown it is likely to succeed on the merits of the case, and that it will suffer irreparable harm with any interference. Thomas said the government's interest in preserving national security outweighs any hardship to people denied entry into the country.

Two federal appeals courts had blocked the travel policy, which Trump announced a week after he took office in January and revised in March after setbacks in court.

The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, said the ban was "rooted in religious animus" toward Muslims and pointed to Trump's campaign promise to impose a ban on Muslims entering the country as well as tweets and remarks he has made since becoming president.

The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the travel policy does not comply with federal immigration law, including a prohibition on nationality-based discrimination. That court also put a hold on separate aspects of the policy that would keep all refugees out of the United States for 120 days and cut by more than half, from 110,000 to 50,000, the cap on refugees in the current government spending year that ends September 30.

Trump's first executive order on travel applied to travelers from the six countries as well as Iraq, and took effect immediately, causing chaos and panic at airports over the last weekend in January as the Homeland Security Department scrambled to figure out who the order covered and how it was to be implemented.

A federal judge blocked it eight days later, an order that was upheld by a 9th circuit panel. Rather than pursue an appeal, the administration said it would revise the policy.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:49 PM   #31
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The court said Monday the ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen could be enforced as long as they lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States."

Seems like a pretty easy standard to meet. Essentially, the ruling is a fig leaf for the Trump Administration.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:52 PM   #32
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The claim part comes from ...I believe the immigration act. It's the law and EO's are not laws and cannot break laws.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:54 PM   #33
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Why did the court rule on a Ban that was only suppose to last 120 days "to figure things out", when we are 150 since the ban was tried, there were zero terror attacks here. Have we not "figured things out"?

Or was the whole "reasoning" of why the ban was needed in the first place a lie?
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:58 PM   #34
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The court said Monday the ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen could be enforced as long as they lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States."

Seems like a pretty easy standard to meet. Essentially, the ruling is a fig leaf for the Trump Administration.
Bullshit. If that were the case Carter's ban, including deportations of Iranians during their revolution and hostage crisis, would have been denied as well as a few other presidential bans.
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:01 PM   #35
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Someone who has overstayed a visa isn't an illegal under federal immigration laws.
Yes it is. Not criminal like illegal entry, but a civil violation. Both are considered an illegal alien under the federal immigration law.

That person can be deported and barred from re-entry to the US for 3 years if it's less than 180 days, 10 years from 181-1 year and anything more permanent ban.
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:10 PM   #36
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The President has a few options here as the 90-120 day clock starts now since the stay is lifted. He can let it run out or terminate it early by the time the SC would likely hear the case this fall and avoid the legal questions of his authority and any use of candidates comments to discern intent. He could press the legal questions of his authority and attempt to set precedents against the legally creative use of candidate statements to discern intent once a guy becomes sworn in as President. This is the creative legal basis used by which the lower courts to prevent the travel ban. Though it looks like 3 Justices tipped their hand, if he chooses to pursue:
"The Government has satisfied the standard for issuing a stay pending certiorari. We have, of course, decided to grant certiorari. See ante, at 8–9. And I agree with the Court’s implicit conclusion that the Government has made a strong showing that it is likely to succeed on the mer its—that is, that the judgments below will be reversed. The Government has also established that failure to stay the injunctions will cause irreparable harm by interfering with its “compelling need to provide for the Nation’s security.”
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:20 PM   #37
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Good move by SCOTUS. The centrist and more conservative elements of the Democratic Party need to work on reshaping the party's immigration policies. Partisan politics aside, SCOTUS's decision is a good move for the U.S.

Interesting article on how the Democratic Party has "lost its way" on immigration:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...istake/528678/
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Someone who has overstayed a visa isn't an illegal under federal immigration laws.
You stay busy defending people who are in our country in violation of our rules and laws. I'll stay with the majority who favor enforcing our laws.

Good news is illegals coming in via our southern border are down around 70% since Trump came in. They're attributing it to a climate of fear among the illegal community.
How sweet is that?
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Dershowitz: Ginsburg Should Recuse Herself

Former Harvard professor says liberal justice's comments disqualify her from ruling on president

Former Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz said Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg should recuse herself from “any case involving the president” because of her past public comments on President Donald Trump.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/d...volving-trump/
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:34 PM   #40
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Bullshit. If that were the case Carter's ban, including deportations of Iranians during their revolution and hostage crisis, would have been denied as well as a few other presidential bans.
What, exactly, are you saying is "bullshit"? That having a relationship with a US person or entity is an easy standard to meet?
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A lot of key cases getting worked on lately, praise God for Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court and not one of HilLiaRy's lwnj liberal Justices. This is a primary reason why voters voted for Trump.
Yes. Trump supporters should thank Mitch McConnell and Charles Grassley for making Trump's victory possible. We shouldn't thank Russia, but they probably helped too.
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Yes. Trump supporters should thank Mitch McConnell and Charles Grassley for making Trump's victory possible. We shouldn't thank Russia, but they probably helped too.
This really can't be emphasized enough. Mitch and Chuck are two master pols who will go down in history as saving the country from an obama-stacked liberal activist SCOTUS.
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Yes it is. Not criminal like illegal entry, but a civil violation. Both are considered an illegal alien under the federal immigration law.

That person can be deported and barred from re-entry to the US for 3 years if it's less than 180 days, 10 years from 181-1 year and anything more permanent ban.
The term illegal alien is found nowhere under federal immigration law.

Don't lie about something so easily disproved.
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You stay busy defending people who are in our country in violation of our rules and laws. I'll stay with the majority who favor enforcing our laws.

Good news is illegals coming in via our southern border are down around 70% since Trump came in. They're attributing it to a climate of fear among the illegal community.
How sweet is that?
I actually defending what the law actually says.

You go ahead a defend the fiction you think it does though.
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Old 06-26-2017, 02:10 PM   #45
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Someone who has overstayed a visa isn't an illegal under federal immigration laws.
They are still in violation of the Law. You are making an inane distinction.
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