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Old 07-15-2017, 03:04 PM  
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Politico: "Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration"

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Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration

Senior aide Stephen Miller has been working with conservative senators to make good on Trump’s campaign promise.

Josh Dawsey
07/12/2017 07:07 PM EDT

Donald Trump and his aides are quietly working with two conservative senators to dramatically scale back legal immigration — a move that would mark a fulfillment of one of the president's biggest campaign promises.

Trump plans to get behind a bill being introduced later this summer by GOP Sens. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and David Perdue of Georgia that, if signed into law, would, by 2027, slash in half the number of legal immigrants entering the country each year, according to four people familiar with the conversations. Currently, about 1 million legal immigrants enter the country annually; that number would fall to 500,000 over the next decade.


.....hawks, now led by Cotton, who will have the backing of the White House,versus dovish lawmakers such as Arizona’s John McCain and South Carolina’s Lindsey Graham.


.....The Cotton-Perdue legislation would also mark a broader shift away from the current immigration system, which favors those with family currently in the U.S., toward a merit-based approach. It would, for example, increase the number of green cards — which allow for permanent residency in the U.S. — that are granted on the basis of merit to foreigners in a series of categories including outstanding professors and researchers, those holding advanced degrees, and those with extraordinary ability in a particular field.

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Old 07-15-2017, 06:08 PM   #16
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Old 07-15-2017, 06:09 PM   #17
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It would be a start, but it would still be allowing about 499,900 (not counting new spouses) too many a year.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:25 PM   #18
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Just so we're clear, what I'm reading is that we will reduce the number of immigrants but increase the number of foreigners who can basically be American residents through green cards. It is taking away the "immigrant" title without doing much to take away from foreign residents who come here and contribute.

I actually like that, depending of course on what that actually balance will be. But just so you know, because I know where you stand on this, this plan recognizes and rewards the contribution of legal foreigners, despite what the headline might lead you to believe.
Sounds like you're reading it wrong. Total immigrants go down. Number of merit-based immigrants goes up.

Which sounds good to me but probably can't make it through the Senate.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:31 PM   #19
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It should be a merit-based system and the standards should be very high. I like the sound of this.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:10 PM   #20
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Sounds like you're reading it wrong. Total immigrants go down. Number of merit-based immigrants goes up.

Which sounds good to me but probably can't make it through the Senate.
I'm not reading it wrong.
There are those, like BEP (who I often disagree with) who hate immigration but understand the importance of skilled immigrant labor. Those are the people who have a right to applaud this plan. But someone like PB has been selling the idea of zero based immigration, and that legal immigration provides no value whatsoever. Based on what I'm reading above, those zero-based immigration people can't point to this as some kind of victory. What I'm reading above seems to acknowledge the importance of skilled foreign labor.
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Have you ever done that? I doubt it.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:03 PM   #22
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No. I swore an oath of allegiance to this country in front of a federal judge.

Have you ever done that? I doubt it.
Do you still hold UK citizenship? If so, has holding dual citizenship ever created any issues for you in the US?
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Old 07-16-2017, 02:31 AM   #23
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Do you still hold UK citizenship? If so, has holding dual citizenship ever created any issues for you in the US?
Absolutely not. It was an option but I rejected it. I even called the U.K. embassy and told them I wanted to reject my "citizenship" the day I was naturalized. I'm still "a subject of her majesty" because that's up to her and her alone. Which makes me want to puke. Apparently, I could still get a U.K. passport if I wanted one.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:59 AM   #24
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I'm not reading it wrong.
There are those, like BEP (who I often disagree with) who hate immigration but understand the importance of skilled immigrant labor. Those are the people who have a right to applaud this plan. But someone like PB has been selling the idea of zero based immigration, and that legal immigration provides no value whatsoever. Based on what I'm reading above, those zero-based immigration people can't point to this as some kind of victory. What I'm reading above seems to acknowledge the importance of skilled foreign labor.
I still haven't seen or heard an argument(that makes sense for America) on how this is a bad thing.

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Old 07-16-2017, 06:02 AM   #25
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I still haven't seen or heard an argument(that makes sense for America) on how this is a bad thing.

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Old 07-16-2017, 06:31 AM   #26
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I still haven't seen or heard an argument(that makes sense for America) on how this is a bad thing.

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I assume you mean that we don't need foreign workers... period. So you don't support balancing out immigration growth with the issuing of visas and green cards (which is essentially the same thing as legal immigration, in most cases).
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:34 AM   #27
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Baby steps.

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Oh stop. You'd be fine with legal immigration if they were all your favorite color.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:43 AM   #28
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Absolutely not. It was an option but I rejected it. I even called the U.K. embassy and told them I wanted to reject my "citizenship" the day I was naturalized. I'm still "a subject of her majesty" because that's up to her and her alone. Which makes me want to puke. Apparently, I could still get a U.K. passport if I wanted one.
Do you have bad teeth, sip tea, and enjoy liver and onions?

If so, perhaps you'd be happier in England.
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Do you have bad teeth, sip tea, and enjoy liver and onions?

If so, perhaps you'd be happier in England.
No.

I'm very happy here, thanks.
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