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Old 07-15-2017, 03:52 PM  
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Governor Brown Colludes with Foreign Government—Communist China and Others

...and forms his own Foreign Policy. Looks like sedition to me.

(I said I would post this in a thread the other day. Just didn't have time to read all the sites on it.)


Governor MoonBeam is openly rebelling and calling for others to rebel against the Constitutional authority of the U.S. government. Now this also looks more clearly to be violating the Logan Act—not merely talking to an ambassador of another nation or a lawyer for information on an opponent who may have been doing something we should know about.

Governor MoonBeam and his allies are defying the elected government of the United States claiming to save us from the "gas of life called carbon dioxide." This is part of the radical "resistance" movement by the left. They call the president “insane” the way commies do when someone disagrees with a govt policy.

Brown's actions are illegal, but claim this is legal since it’s non-binding. But if so it is binding Californians into all kinds of taxes and regulations as a matter of law forcing them to comply.

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California's ambitious climate action includes the Under2 Coalition - an international pact among cities, states and countries to limit the increase in global average temperature to below 2 degrees Celsius.
I thought the Democrats were apoplectic pointing to the Logan Act being violated by some of Trump’s campaign. Yet, here we have U.S. citizens trying to negotiate policy with foreign powers with no specific authorization from the U.S. government.

While Brown was attacking the legally elected president of the United States he was also praising the brutal dictatorship in China as a source of inspiration and leadership.

The states forming unconstitutional alliances with foreign powers are: Washington State, New York State, Vermont, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Rhode Island, more plus American cities.

Of course, all of it is blatantly illegal and unconstitutional. In Article 1, Section 10, for instance, the U.S. Constitution very clearly prohibits the very actions Brown and his allies have been boasting about. “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation,” it says. As if that was not clear enough, Article 1, Section 10 also says: “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power.”

Katy Grimes, an investigative journalist and a Senior Media Fellow with the Energy and Environment Legal Institute, was among the prominent voices to level charges of treason. [Okay, it many not actually be treason since we're not in open war with these countries. Just note that the left accuses this on even lesser political acts like Don Jr. ] “Brown should be investigated for colluding with a known foreign enemy upon his return to the United States — a federal republic of 50 states of which he is but one governor,” she wrote, blasting Brown's “treasonous” trip to China. “It is unconstitutional for a state to supplant federal powers and act on its own when dealing with other nations. Brown’s latest trip to China to enter into a treaty as a sovereign nation is unconstitutional on several levels, and violates the Logan Act.”

This was not Gov Moonbeams first dip into forming illegal foreign alliances. Grimes cited various illegal alliances Brown has formed with foreign governments and other states, she suggested it was time for the federal government to intervene. Brown traveled to Vatican City in 2015 to discuss climate change with Pope Francis and joined other states such as Canada and in Europe.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=19817

Hmmm...apparently some Canadians understand how our Republican form of govt actually works:
http://canadafreepress.com/article/g...-trip-to-china

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...706-story.html


http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...e-11189747.php

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Old 07-15-2017, 04:02 PM   #2
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To be honest, your thread title is alarming and makes me want to go bash heads, but I am too old.


But to be frank, they have been doing this since before I got out of high school, almost 50 years ago.

They were ahead of the rest of the country on automobile controls and emissions, usually by two years.

They were the first to require a "smog pump" and many other earth and human friendly requirements for the auto industry.

The list is long of stuff that would label a car from California.


It's their choice I guess.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:06 PM   #3
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To be honest, your thread title is alarming and makes me want to go bash heads, but I am too old.
I can't help if the facts alarm you. I find what he is doing alarming. He was not elected president.

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But to be frank and honest, they have been doing this since before I got out of high school, almost 50 years ago.
Doing what exactly? Were they forming alliances with other countries in open rebellion to the elected head of the national govt?

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They were ahead of the rest of the country on automobile controls and emissions, usually by two years. They were the first to require a "smog pump" and many other earth and human friendly requirements for the auto industry.

The list is long of stuff that would label a car from California.
I am not claiming they can't pass some of their local environmental laws. That alone, is another topic. I am saying he can't form an alliance with foreign powers or openly defy the national govt on a climate accord to make a new one with a foreign power.

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It's their choice I guess.
Not under our Constitution—not like this. Just note what I am criticizing because you're making different argument.


Note this in one of the links right off the CA govt's page I linked at —https://www.gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=19817

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Old 07-15-2017, 04:09 PM   #4
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Oh and I wanna use the word "collude" to mock the charges being made against Trump's campaign and son Don Jr.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:11 PM   #5
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Governor MoonBean needs to secede if he wants such an alliance with a foreign power.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:18 PM   #6
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Jerry Brown Thinks That California Is A Country

Germany just made the announcement that it will work directly with the state of California and Governor Jerry Brown to fight uncontrolled climate change...

Brown is doing his best to break the law. He went to China recently and said that his state will work with the Chinese on tackling climate change. It’s all under a new, independent agreement.

https://www.worldnewspolitics.com/20...ornia-country/
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:52 PM   #7
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BEP becoming increasingly unhinged since it was found that Don Jr. wanted to collude with Russia.
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:01 PM   #8
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BEP becoming increasingly unhinged since it was found that Don Jr. wanted to collude with Russia.
No. You just notice it more. Its not a change. And she has discovered Collude and its varients and finds joy in using them for effect.
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:27 PM   #9
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BEP becoming increasingly unhinged since it was found that Don Jr. wanted to collude with Russia.
It's her MO when she's embarrassed. She does it all the time.
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They don't understand when they are obviously being mocked, lmao.
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:49 PM   #11
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They don't understand when they are obviously being mocked, lmao.
I know.

If anything is closer to an un-holy or illegal alliance with a foreign power this would be it.
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Old 07-15-2017, 06:15 PM   #12
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BEP becoming increasingly unhinged since it was found that Don Jr. wanted to collude with Russia.
She's simply asking questions you cannot answer, and this is all you're left with.


"No colluding with foreign countries! Our country first!"


- what do you think of Jerry Brown trying to do deals with China, or De Blasio blasting the sitting US President in front of G20 leaders?


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JFC your and idiot.
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JFC your and idiot.
Do you mean you're an idiot, you mouthbreathing simpleton?
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She's simply asking questions you cannot answer, and this is all you're left with.


"No colluding with foreign countries! Our country first!"


- what do you think of Jerry Brown trying to do deals with China, or De Blasio blasting the sitting US President in front of G20 leaders?


"Well. That's just different!"
It is.. completely different. But I'm not going to argue that with somebody who openly admits to being tribal because that would be a waste of time.
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