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Old 07-17-2017, 04:13 PM  
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WAPO Trump and his base live in a bubble where he’s popular and all is well

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d-all-is-well/

Trump and his base live in a bubble where he’s popular and all is well


If you ask most Americans, President Trump’s use of Twitter is frowned upon. Two-thirds of Americans disapprove of Trump’s tweeting, with more than half saying that they disapprove strongly.

One might be inclined to suggest that it’s everyone else who constitutes the bubble. Such a person is welcome to make that case, certainly, but there are two reasons that the term doesn’t apply as readily to the yellow slices of the pie. For one thing, they vary more in size and constitution. For another, they are the majority. Perhaps you, the rest of the world, are in the bubble that naively doesn’t think that the New York Mets are the best team in baseball (or who couldn’t care less). Or perhaps it’s Mets fans.

We saw something similar during the campaign. No matter what Trump did, his core base of support stuck with him. Some part or all of that core base of support sticks with him still. While most Americans disapprove of Trump’s job performance, see him as unpresidential and think he’s performing worse than past presidents, this quarter of the public disagrees.

There’s one good reason for that: Trump’s messaging and priorities all seem to target that group. That’s the bubble: Trump’s tweets about the biased media and inaccurate polls may not reflect reality, but they reinforce a message that bounces around within that base. Trump’s policy priorities may not be shared by most Americans, but they are shared by that core base of support.

Take the Republican health-care bills, for example. Most Americans prefer Obamacare to the Republican proposals. But a minority prefer the Republican replacement proposals — 24 percent, to be exact.

These quarters of the electorate are not all the same people, mind you. There are people who support the Republican health-care bills but who think Trump’s Twitter use is inappropriate (like the speaker of the House). The precise size of that central kernel of Trump support — made up largely of Republicans, white men without college degrees and evangelicals — isn’t really clear.

This poll gives a sense of its scale. About a quarter of the American people think that Trump’s tweeting is just fine and that he is on pace to be a historically great president.

Why the split? In part, certainly, thanks to the divide noted by The Post’s Carl Bernstein on CNN on Sunday. There are different media environments that cater to those inside and outside that space. If you support Trump and believe that he’s being effective, you can immerse yourself in a world where voices critical of that belief are sidelined or muted. And if you dislike Trump and think he’s failing, you can do the same.

It’s hard to predict what the result of this divide will be on American politics. One interesting side effect is already obvious: Republicans on Capitol Hill are reticent to criticize Trump, in part because his bubble of support overlaps with their primary election voters. It seems to bode poorly for Trump in 2020, except that he still has 3½ years to turn it around — and except that having only a kernel of fervent support didn’t keep him from winning in 2016.

For now, though, the effect is clear. There is a group of Americans who seem distinctly unlikely to ever change their minds about how Trump is doing. And Trump has dived deep into that pool, and is swimming in it gleefully.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:45 PM   #16
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:51 PM   #17
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Bullshit most dems were sour on Hillary hence her low turnout.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/o...ank-obama.html

Pretty critical article on Obama and his policies on whistleblowers.

There is no Free thought at all from Right wing media.
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Dems voted 89-8 for her while Obama beat romney 92-7.


She won Libs 84-10 vs Obama 86-11.


Zero difference.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:54 PM   #18
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Dems voted 89-8 for her while Obama beat romney 92-7.


She won Libs 84-10 vs Obama 86-11.


Zero difference.
obama popular vote

65,915,795

and 2008 69,498,516



65,844,954 Clinton.



She lost the moderate votes.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:55 PM   #19
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Using number totals makes things look like a bigger difference, than using percentages, Oakie.

We hear about the millions that gave her the popular vote, which was till only about 2%.

( Even 2% is questionable due to over counts of ballots in some cities—like Detroit.)
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No, she simply went back to normal Dem voter totals, like Kerry and Gore got


Obummer turned out lotsa trash in 08, but as you noted above, by 2012 the game was up for his lies
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:01 PM   #22
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It is a very spacious bubble, and much more enjoyable than an overcrowded city.
You've got to love the irony of a leftist newspaper in D.C. talking about others living in a bubble, though.
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I love it here in the bubble, its cozy and prosperous

Trumps base doesnt give a damn about WaPo, especially their most recent poll with ABC that over sampled dems 12%... a convenient way to skew the poll to the narrative they want

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2...les-democrats/

No more than a handful who voted for him are abandoning him, its a bunch of nothing burgers served with a side of fake news... scummy media trying to create their own reality
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I love it here in the bubble, its cozy and prosperous

Trumps base doesnt give a damn about WaPo, especially their most recent poll with ABC that over sampled dems 12%... a convenient way to skew the poll to the narrative they want

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2...les-democrats/

No more than a handful who voted for him are abandoning him, its a bunch of nothing burgers served with a side of fake news... scummy media trying to create their own reality
You're gonna trust Rush limbaugh really....

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/
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You've got to love the irony of a leftist newspaper in D.C. talking about others living in a bubble, though.
the fact that a majority of americans hate the current admin and almost the entire world -israel and Russia.

How much more can you be in a Bubble ?
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the fact that a majority of americans hate the current admin and almost the entire world -israel and Russia.

How much more can you be in a Bubble ?

Yeah. Americans hate the GOP. Except the folks who vote. Feelin bubblicious ?
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Yeah. Americans hate the GOP. Except the folks who vote. Feelin bubblicious ?
See Popular Vote

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The latter result is more in line with Gallup polling in 2010 that found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republican
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You're gonna trust Rush limbaugh really....

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/
I put no stock in Clintonfact.com

You lefties have Rush made out to be some kinda boogieman in your heads, and it only shows that you've never actually listened to a single broadcast
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:08 PM   #29
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I put no stock in Clintonfact.com

You lefties have Rush made out to be some kinda boogieman in your heads, and it only shows that you've never actually listened to a single broadcast
Rush is moron.

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1. “I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”

2. “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.”

3. “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

4. “Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson

Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.”

5. “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

6. “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

7. “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

8. “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back (to an African American female caller).”

9. “I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.”

Seem's like a real Straight shooter.
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