Chiefs Cardinals looking like this years team to get screwed out of playoffs - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 12-15-2013, 09:37 PM

Currently 9-5

NFL playoff system.....you need work.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/12/...aints-wildcard

No. 1 Seattle Seahawks 12-2 (NFC West leader)
No. 2 New Orleans Saints 10-4 (NFC South leader)
No. 3 Philadelphia Eagles 8-6 (NFC East leader)
No. 4 Chicago Bears 8-6 (NFC North leader)
No. 5 Carolina Panthers 10-4 (Wild Card)
No. 6 San Francisco 49ers 10-4 (Wild Card)

On the outside looking in
1. Arizona Cardinals (9-5)
2. Detroit Lions (7-6)
3. Green Bay Packers (7-6-1)
4. Dallas Cowboys (7-7)

Red Dawg · 12-15-2013, 10:37 PM

Divisions are out dated. If you want the best teams then it should go by record only. That way a bs team would not get in.

Snapplez · 12-15-2013, 10:39 PM

Love it. You lose to an NFC East team, you shouldn't sniff the playoffs.

ekf028 · 12-15-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I like this. I thnk it's the way the NBA does it ?

Yes!

KCrockaholic · 12-15-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Divisions are out dated. If you want the best teams then it should go by record only. That way a bs team would not get in.

7-9 Seahawks did some damage.

tk13 · 12-15-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I like this. I thnk it's the way the NBA does it ?

I don't think they actually re-seed. They still seed teams the same way... but the team with the better record always has home court.

So in this year's NFL, we'd still be the 5 seed, but we'd host the first round game since we have the better record over Indy. That way teams that win their division are still rewarded by getting in.

Reerun_KC · 12-15-2013, 10:57 PM

Scrap the divisions. Keep the.conferences. top 6 teams by record play. 1 and 2 get bye. 3-6 play. Problem solved. Right now chiefs would be the 2 seed

Reerun_KC · 12-15-2013, 10:59 PM

1 and 2 get home field. If both advance. 2 goes to 1 for afcc game. Higher seed always hosts game.

tk13 · 12-15-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Scrap the divisions. Keep the.conferences. top 6 teams by record play. 1 and 2 get bye. 3-6 play. Problem solved. Right now chiefs would be the 2 seed

Yeah but it doesn't work that way. You get rid of divisions, we don't play Oakland, Denver and SD twice anymore... the schedules would be handled differently.

Chief Roundup · 12-16-2013, 01:38 AM

I like it the way it is. Sure some teams can get screwed. But a team can get screwed no matter what format is used. Unless you want to dilute the playoffs. No Thanks....We do not need to be like the NBA where half or more of the league gets in.
Winning a Division is important. Division rivalries are important.

Chief Roundup · 12-16-2013, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Scrap the divisions. Keep the.conferences. top 6 teams by record play. 1 and 2 get bye. 3-6 play. Problem solved. Right now chiefs would be the 2 seed

I guess you don't like division rivalries. This would effectively end rivalries in the NFL. Stupid idea.

Chief Roundup · 12-16-2013, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I like this. I thnk it's the way the NBA does it ?

Why would anyone want to copy the NBA? The NBA sucks.

ThaVirus · 12-16-2013, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

They kinda control their own destiny. If they win the next 2, then they're in. At that point wouldn't they hold the tie breaker over the 49ers? Their last 2 games are tough. But if they win, they're in I believe.

I'm not sure but I hope the 9ers and Panthers/Saints get in as the Wild Card. I think those teams, especially the 9ers and Panthers, have a much better chance at making a splash in the playoffs than the Cards.

Bl00dyBizkitz · 12-16-2013, 04:26 AM

The system right now sucks because it doesn't take into account two teams from the same division being better than most of the rest of the conference (Chiefs/Broncos, Seahawks/49ers).

But I am a fan of winning a division to make it. Makes having rivalries worth it. And it makes you bring your A game, because losing division games hurt bad.

It's a flawed system, and boy does it show this year, but I like it and I'll stick with it. I would not be surprised if they changed it to best 6 teams, though.

RedDread · 12-16-2013, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm fine with it the way it is. The current format emphasizes divisional rivalries, which I like a lot. Don't dilute that.

The only thing I'll say is that I kind of wish they're re-seed in the playoffs based on record. We're a good example of this - seems silly that we'll (likely) be going in as the 5 seed.

I know it's homerish to say it right now but I agree with this to an extent.

I would keep 6 teams but have the top two division winners by record get the byes week 1 of the playoffs, as well as being the 1 and 2 seeds. For wild card weekend it would be 3-6 based solely off record. Whoever was 3-4, regardless of whether they were division winners, would get a home game. This would virtually eliminate situations where division winners with worse records are playing at home vs WC teams with better records.

Sure there may be a situation where a 2 seed has a worse record and is playing at home against the 3 seed in the divisional week of playoffs, but the 3 seed already got to host a home game, AND gets to play the 2 seed instead of being a 5 and playing the 1 seed in all likelihood.

KChiefer · 12-16-2013, 05:10 AM

Meh, we should just be happy there are wild cards that let good teams get in when they have a better team in their division.

With teams like the Steelers that won as a 6 seed a few years ago, you can make the argument with there being so much parity that lesser teams should get their shot also, but it just creates 98% unnecessary games. If one out of 50 teams gets screwed out of their SB run...tough.

Baseball purists generally hate wild card formats. Back in the day, winning your pennant was a big deal. Now it just means you made the playoffs.

12-15-2013, 09:37 PM
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12-15-2013, 10:37 PM	#46
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4822858	Divisions are out dated. If you want the best teams then it should go by record only. That way a bs team would not get in. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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12-15-2013, 10:39 PM	#47
Snapplez Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Casino cash: $10027795	Love it. You lose to an NFC East team, you shouldn't sniff the playoffs.
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12-15-2013, 10:57 PM	#51
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8301160	Scrap the divisions. Keep the.conferences. top 6 teams by record play. 1 and 2 get bye. 3-6 play. Problem solved. Right now chiefs would be the 2 seed
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12-15-2013, 10:59 PM	#52
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8301160	1 and 2 get home field. If both advance. 2 goes to 1 for afcc game. Higher seed always hosts game.
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12-16-2013, 01:38 AM	#54
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $2151627	I like it the way it is. Sure some teams can get screwed. But a team can get screwed no matter what format is used. Unless you want to dilute the playoffs. No Thanks....We do not need to be like the NBA where half or more of the league gets in. Winning a Division is important. Division rivalries are important. __________________ Fanaticism is nowhere. There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
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12-16-2013, 04:26 AM	#58
Bl00dyBizkitz Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Casino cash: $2838419	The system right now sucks because it doesn't take into account two teams from the same division being better than most of the rest of the conference (Chiefs/Broncos, Seahawks/49ers). But I am a fan of winning a division to make it. Makes having rivalries worth it. And it makes you bring your A game, because losing division games hurt bad. It's a flawed system, and boy does it show this year, but I like it and I'll stick with it. I would not be surprised if they changed it to best 6 teams, though.
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12-16-2013, 05:10 AM	#60
KChiefer Fantastic Planeteer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Champaign, IL Casino cash: $10006721	Meh, we should just be happy there are wild cards that let good teams get in when they have a better team in their division. With teams like the Steelers that won as a 6 seed a few years ago, you can make the argument with there being so much parity that lesser teams should get their shot also, but it just creates 98% unnecessary games. If one out of 50 teams gets screwed out of their SB run...tough. Baseball purists generally hate wild card formats. Back in the day, winning your pennant was a big deal. Now it just means you made the playoffs.
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