Movies and TV Who knew?!... Major Charles Emmerson Winchester is gay. - Page 5

Frankie · 05-06-2009, 11:05 AM

M*A*S*H Star Ogden Stiers Comes Out

6 May 2009 5:15 AM, PDT

M*A*S*H star David Ogden Stiers has come out as gay - after years of fearing he would be denied roles because of his sexuality.

The actor first tasted fame as Major Charles Winchester on the hit TV comedy before finding steady work as a voice actor in several Disney projects, including Beauty And The Beast and Pocahontas.

But throughout his career, he was warned he risked losing work if he came out as a gay man.

He tells the Gossip Boy blog, "From the late 1980s until about seven or eight years ago, you would find certain individuals coming up to you, me, and advocating the position that since we were doing family fare that it would be best were the actors to maintain a certain palatability to parents.

"These parties likely had heard rumors or harbored suspicions about me and wanted to make sure no embarrassing incidents were forthcoming."

But he insists his reasons for coming out now, at the age of 66, have nothing to do with his profession - he wants to find a life partner.

Stiers adds: "I could claim noble reasons as coming out in order to move gay rights forward, but I must admit it is for far more selfish reasons. Now is the time I wish to find someone and I do not desire to force any potential partner to live a life of extreme discretion for me."

http://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000002/#ni0773478

Frankie · 05-06-2009, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

David Ogden Stiers isn't the only guy copping to being gay today.

Very good.

Frankie · 05-06-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

There are M*A*S*H books? What is their chronology relative to the movie and the TV show?

The movie was based on a book. The show was loosely based on the movie. I read the book years ago and really enjoyed it. IMO it was way better than the movie. If I remember right the character Hawkeye was based on the author's experience in Korea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Potter < Blake
Winchester < Burns
Honeycutt < McIntyre
(Expanded) Klinger < O'Reilly

FYP

Frankie · 05-06-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I admit my gaydar missed on him.

You have a gaydar? Don't you have to be gay to have one?

Frazod · 05-06-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

The movie was based on a book. The show was loosely based on the movie. I read the book years ago and really enjoyed it. IMO it was way better than the movie. If I remember right the character Hawkeye was based on the author's experience in Korea.

The author of the book hated the movie - the book was just a humorous recounting of his war time experiences - Altman turned that into an anti-Vietnam message film.

Frankie · 05-06-2009, 08:53 PM

MASH was a progressive tv-tabu-killing show. I wonder if the producers had even suspected DOS was in the closet. Think about all the possibilities they missed out on if they had persuaded him to play Charles as a closeted gay man too.

whoman69 · 05-06-2009, 09:19 PM

No wonder Reverend Gene Purdy from the Dead Zone was such a conflicted, tortured character.

**Rain Man** · 05-06-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

MASH was a progressive tv-tabu-killing show. I wonder if the producers had even suspected DOS was in the closet. Think about all the possibilities they missed out on if they had persuaded him to play Charles as a closeted gay man too.

Maybe they did and we just didn't pick up on it. Does anyone ever remember an episode where he was girl-chasing? Most of the time he was keeping his part of the tent tidy and listening to classical music and using words like 'droll'.

Frosty · 05-07-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Does anyone ever remember an episode where he was girl-chasing?

Didn't he fall for one of the "working girls" in Rosie's Bar in one episode?

Katipan · 05-07-2009, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Maybe they did and we just didn't pick up on it. Does anyone ever remember an episode where he was girl-chasing? Most of the time he was keeping his part of the tent tidy and listening to classical music and using words like 'droll'.

Yes, actually. The man got "married" one night in Tokyo. And he and Nurse Kelly were always going to "events" together.

BigOlChiefsfan · 05-07-2009, 07:50 AM

Another victim of the Radar Reacharound

blaise · 05-07-2009, 07:52 AM

Radar was a real asshole, I thought. That was one of the only times I liked Alda, was when he told Radar that he was a little baby bitch.

blaise · 05-07-2009, 07:53 AM

And I hated that psychiatrist, Sydney or whatever his name was.

**Bwana** · 05-07-2009, 07:55 AM

No way! Next you'll be telling us Richard Simmons is gay.

**Donger** · 05-07-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

Goes against your conservative nature, heh Donger?

Judging from some of the descriptions, it doesn't sound like I missed much. But, no, since I had no idea that this show was hippy-ish, my conservative nature was not the reason I never watched it.

ping2000 · 05-07-2009, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Alan Alda is one of main reasons I'm so obnoxious. Often when I watch old MASH episodes I'll hear Hawkeye say things that have become so engrained into my personality I don't even think about where I first heard them.

So blame him.

"I think it's fair to warn you my falcon will be here in five seconds." - Hawkeye to Frank Burns (Most awesome line ever)

05-06-2009, 11:05 AM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Who knew?!... Major Charles Emmerson Winchester is gay. *MASH Star Ogden Stiers Comes Out** 6 May 2009 5:15 AM, PDT MAS*H star David Ogden Stiers has come out as gay - after years of fearing he would be denied roles because of his sexuality. The actor first tasted fame as Major Charles Winchester on the hit TV comedy before finding steady work as a voice actor in several Disney projects, including Beauty And The Beast and Pocahontas. But throughout his career, he was warned he risked losing work if he came out as a gay man. He tells the Gossip Boy blog, "From the late 1980s until about seven or eight years ago, you would find certain individuals coming up to you, me, and advocating the position that since we were doing family fare that it would be best were the actors to maintain a certain palatability to parents. "These parties likely had heard rumors or harbored suspicions about me and wanted to make sure no embarrassing incidents were forthcoming." But he insists his reasons for coming out now, at the age of 66, have nothing to do with his profession - he wants to find a life partner. Stiers adds: "I could claim noble reasons as coming out in order to move gay rights forward, but I must admit it is for far more selfish reasons. Now is the time I wish to find someone and I do not desire to force any potential partner to live a life of extreme discretion for me." http://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000002/#ni0773478
Posts: 26,959

05-06-2009, 08:53 PM	#65
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	MASH was a progressive tv-tabu-killing show. I wonder if the producers had even suspected DOS was in the closet. Think about all the possibilities they missed out on if they had persuaded him to play Charles as a closeted gay man too.
Posts: 26,959

05-07-2009, 07:50 AM	#70
BigOlChiefsfan Certified Bourbon taster Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Shawnee KS Casino cash: $7280157	Another victim of the Radar Reacharound __________________ A man can never own too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition. -- R. Kipling
Posts: 5,029

05-07-2009, 07:52 AM	#71
blaise In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $9999900	Radar was a real asshole, I thought. That was one of the only times I liked Alda, was when he told Radar that he was a little baby bitch.
Posts: 22,188

05-07-2009, 07:53 AM	#72
blaise In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $9999900	And I hated that psychiatrist, Sydney or whatever his name was.
Posts: 22,188

05-07-2009, 07:55 AM	#73
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139603647	No way! Next you'll be telling us Richard Simmons is gay.
Posts: 69,730