Environment NOAA Confirms Hurricane Sandy Was Not A Result Of Ocean Global Warming, nor CO2

KILLER_CLOWN · 11-07-2012, 12:59 PM

The NCDC (an agency of NOAA) publishes global ocean temperature records, which confirm that global warming of the oceans did not cause Hurricane Sandy - in fact, their most recent temperature measurements reveal that ocean temperatures have actually remained flat over last 15 years (thru September 2012), while CO2 levels have increased

The chart on the left is a plot of global ocean temperatures for the 15-year period (180 months) ending September 2012. Clearly, since late 1997, global warming of the oceans has not happened and thus can not be the cause of Hurricane Sandy. (Unfortunately, some incredibly dishonest politicians and pundits have actually stated that anthropogenic global warming was the cause.)

The plot on the right represents ocean temperatures for the 15-year period ending September 1997. This chart depicts a modest warming trend of ocean waters, including an increase of CO2 levels.

When comparing the two different 15-year time periods, the following can be ascertained:

CO2 levels for 15-year period ending Sept 2012: Increased by 30 ppm
Ocean linear temperature trend equates to: +0.007 degree increase by year 2100
Polynomial trend and 3-year average indicate a cooling is in process
CO2 levels for the 15-year period ending Sept 1997: Increased by 22 ppm
Ocean linear temperature trend equates to: +1.10 degree increase by year 2100
Polynomial trend and 3-year average confirmed a warming trend during this previous 15-year period

Conclusions: The growing increases of atmospheric CO2 levels have not caused a global warming of the oceans over the last 15 years. Global warming was not the cause of Hurricane Sandy, which was essentially a typical weather hurricane that naturally occurs.

http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/11/n...g-nor-co2.html

ROYC75 · 11-07-2012, 01:04 PM

Al wants a recount.

tiptap · 11-07-2012, 03:36 PM

Maybe we could learn Heat Capacities first. Please don't confuse temperature for heat. You flunk physics.

tiptap · 11-07-2012, 03:43 PM

Add up how much heat is needed to account for ice lost over that same period. And remember water is at least a thousand times higher heat capacity than air taking the same volume of both materials.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/nucc...t-al-2012.html

tiptap · 11-07-2012, 03:47 PM

Finally NOAA said that Atlantic Ocean temperatures were 3 degrees higher than normal for that time of year. That fed Sandy. That was anomalous.

Dave · 11-07-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tiptap

Finally NOAA said that Atlantic Ocean temperatures were 3 degrees higher than normal for that time of year. That fed Sandy. That was anomalous.

Your tinfoil hat is on crooked.

**J Diddy** · 11-07-2012, 07:25 PM

I think it was a small group of underwater dinosaurs.

**mlyonsd** · 11-07-2012, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy

I think it was a small group of underwater dinosaurs.

I'm going with low pressure from the air being sucked out over North America during campaign events.

cosmo20002 · 11-07-2012, 07:30 PM

Didn't Maine approve gay marriage? In hindsight, God was clearly aiming right for Maine and just missed by little bit.

DrunkBassGuitar · 11-07-2012, 07:41 PM

I couldn't find anything on NOAA's website where they said it wasn't a result of AGW

but I did find this http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

DrunkBassGuitar · 11-07-2012, 07:49 PM

There's also this from NOAA

http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/art...sea-level-rise

What kind of sea level rise has New York Harbor seen over the past century?
We’ve had roughly a foot of sea level rise in the New York City area in the past century. That’s measured at a tidal gauge near Battery Park just off the southern tip of Manhattan. The majority of the sea level rise in the New York City region is due to global warming: primarily, because of thermal expansion of ocean water as it warms and secondly, melting of land-based ice sheets. Land subsidence [sinking] in the New York City area has been roughly 3-4 inches per century, which is primarily due to the Earth’s crust rebounding from being compressed by massive ice sheets that covered Canada and the northern U.S. about 20,000 years ago near the end of the last Ice Age. Local variations in ocean surface elevation associated with the strength of the Gulf Stream has played a small role as well.

So yeah...I guess they kind of said it had nothing to do with global warming...except for the parts that did have to do with it...

KILLER_CLOWN · 11-07-2012, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Al wants a recount.

Appearantly he got it, see drunkies post

**J Diddy** · 11-07-2012, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I'm going with low pressure from the air being sucked out over North America during campaign events.

Damn you Chris Matthews.

11-07-2012, 12:59 PM
KILLER_CLOWN Be HEALED!!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fascist State Casino cash: $11109294	NOAA Confirms Hurricane Sandy Was Not A Result Of Ocean Global Warming, nor CO2 The NCDC (an agency of NOAA) publishes global ocean temperature records, which confirm that global warming of the oceans did not cause Hurricane Sandy - in fact, their most recent temperature measurements reveal that ocean temperatures have actually remained flat over last 15 years (thru September 2012), while CO2 levels have increased The chart on the left is a plot of global ocean temperatures for the 15-year period (180 months) ending September 2012. Clearly, since late 1997, global warming of the oceans has not happened and thus can not be the cause of Hurricane Sandy. (Unfortunately, some incredibly dishonest politicians and pundits have actually stated that anthropogenic global warming was the cause.) The plot on the right represents ocean temperatures for the 15-year period ending September 1997. This chart depicts a modest warming trend of ocean waters, including an increase of CO2 levels. When comparing the two different 15-year time periods, the following can be ascertained: CO2 levels for 15-year period ending Sept 2012: Increased by 30 ppm Ocean linear temperature trend equates to: +0.007 degree increase by year 2100 Polynomial trend and 3-year average indicate a cooling is in process CO2 levels for the 15-year period ending Sept 1997: Increased by 22 ppm Ocean linear temperature trend equates to: +1.10 degree increase by year 2100 Polynomial trend and 3-year average confirmed a warming trend during this previous 15-year period Conclusions: The growing increases of atmospheric CO2 levels have not caused a global warming of the oceans over the last 15 years. Global warming was not the cause of Hurricane Sandy, which was essentially a typical weather hurricane that naturally occurs. http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/11/n...g-nor-co2.html
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11-07-2012, 03:36 PM	#3
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $19069	Maybe we could learn Heat Capacities first. Please don't confuse temperature for heat. You flunk physics. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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11-07-2012, 03:43 PM	#4
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $19069	Add up how much heat is needed to account for ice lost over that same period. And remember water is at least a thousand times higher heat capacity than air taking the same volume of both materials. http://www.skepticalscience.com/nucc...t-al-2012.html __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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11-07-2012, 03:47 PM	#5
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $19069	Finally NOAA said that Atlantic Ocean temperatures were 3 degrees higher than normal for that time of year. That fed Sandy. That was anomalous. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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11-07-2012, 07:25 PM	#7
J Diddy Angel on my shoulder Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Pitt State baby Casino cash: $122357	I think it was a small group of underwater dinosaurs.
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DrunkBassGuitar Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Omaha! Omaha! Casino cash: $6081	I couldn't find anything on NOAA's website where they said it wasn't a result of AGW but I did find this http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/ __________________ theopenjam.net know it, love it, **** you
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11-07-2012, 07:49 PM	#11
DrunkBassGuitar Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Omaha! Omaha! Casino cash: $6081	There's also this from NOAA http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/art...sea-level-rise What kind of sea level rise has New York Harbor seen over the past century? We’ve had roughly a foot of sea level rise in the New York City area in the past century. That’s measured at a tidal gauge near Battery Park just off the southern tip of Manhattan. The majority of the sea level rise in the New York City region is due to global warming: primarily, because of thermal expansion of ocean water as it warms and secondly, melting of land-based ice sheets. Land subsidence [sinking] in the New York City area has been roughly 3-4 inches per century, which is primarily due to the Earth’s crust rebounding from being compressed by massive ice sheets that covered Canada and the northern U.S. about 20,000 years ago near the end of the last Ice Age. Local variations in ocean surface elevation associated with the strength of the Gulf Stream has played a small role as well. So yeah...I guess they kind of said it had nothing to do with global warming...except for the parts that did have to do with it... __________________ theopenjam.net know it, love it, **** you
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