*** Official Diablo III Thread***

[Mr. Laz]

"Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime stated that Starcraft II and the new WOW expansion would launch in 2010 but not Diablo III."


Ima go cry now.




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[Saulbadguy]

It's not dumbed down. It takes out a bunch of worthless shit no one used anyways. It took out annoying, tedious things.

[drunkie]

haha when the game removes the chance of you screwing up your build it is dumbed down. regardless if you liked or disliked the things that was removed blizzard has said it themselves they made it easier for new people. you might love the changes an thats great. but it has been dumbed down. they have made things as simple as they can for people. no longer is there a chance at failure. that is being dumbed down. they are holding your hand on a guided tour to make sure no one gets lost

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by drunkie

haha when the game removes the chance of you screwing up your build it is dumbed down. regardless if you liked or disliked the things that was removed blizzard has said it themselves they made it easier for new people. you might love the changes an thats great. but it has been dumbed down. they have made things as simple as they can for people. no longer is there a chance at failure. that is being dumbed down. they are holding your hand on a guided tour to make sure no one gets lost

Build? who gives a shit, really. 95% of the players just copied a build they found on the internet, or downloaded a trainer.

[drunkie]

here i will make a football example so everyone can relate to it

diablo2 herm would of rolled something like a melee sorc. he would get killed an get laughed at all the time. yet he would be to stupid to look for help. he will stand there giving speeches about why his build is great that make no sense.

now in diablo3 they have made it so no matter what herm does his build will work. this man who could not make it out of act2 normal is now able to make it all the way to hell. herm will not get lost an confused. he now gets a blue ribbon for participation so he can feel like everyone else an not be seen for the true failure that he is.

if you don't like the term dumbed down. we can say it was hermed if that will make people happy haha

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by drunkie

here i will make a football example so everyone can relate to it

diablo2 herm would of rolled something like a melee sorc. he would get killed an get laughed at all the time. yet he would be to stupid to look for help. he will stand there giving speeches about why his build is great that make no sense.

now in diablo3 they have made it so no matter what herm does his build will work. this man who could not make it out of act2 normal is now able to make it all the way to hell. herm will not get lost an confused. he now gets a blue ribbon for participation so he can feel like everyone else an not be seen for the true failure that he is.

if you don't like the term dumbed down. we can say it was hermed if that will make people happy haha

Well, ok. They've dumbed down (hermed) all of gaming then, I don't see how Diablo would be any different.

[drunkie]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Build? who gives a shit, really. 95% of the players just copied a build they found on the internet, or downloaded a trainer.

you don't value those parts thats fine. but it was something people had to figure out. with it gone it is dumbed down sir. just cuz you didn't like the parts that was removed doesn't change that it was more complex even if all you did was look it up online that still took more work then what we have now. your view is really off because the game has been out for so long. think back to the first 2 years. you didn't look up builds online because they wasn't there. your judging it based on what it is now not what it was. let any game be popular for 10 years an you will find guides for the perfect way to do it. people have mastered how to do things so we should remove all the time wasting crap an just place a big iwin button in the middle of the screen to click

here we go. they removed all the boring an time wasted parts of gaming

http://www.notdoppler.com/superpress...ionrpg2009.php

[drunkie]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Well, ok. They've dumbed down (hermed) all of gaming then, I don't see how Diablo would be any different.

this is very true sir. they have. games now are all doing this and it is sad. the only difference is that blizzard used to be a different kinda company. now sadly they are turning just like the rest an thats the problem because they used to make games that was about game play an just being great games. now games are all just a faceroll. hell old mario games are harder then what we get now

[allen_kcCard]

Sounds like dumbed down is another way of saying they did theur best to not alienate a portion of their player base. How about they add in a pitfall during install that if you put in your code wrong it disables the entire game for you so that you just can't play it from the outset instead of doing the long drawn out process of getting pissed off because you did everything wrong builing your character and don't know why.

Sure, there is value in learning how to not make those mistakes, but if they don't add to the game aren't possible frustations like those just taking away from it?

[drunkie]

Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

Sounds like dumbed down is another way of saying they did theur best to not alienate a portion of their player base. How about they add in a pitfall during install that if you put in your code wrong it disables the entire game for you so that you just can't play it from the outset instead of doing the long drawn out process of getting pissed off because you did everything wrong builing your character and don't know why.

Sure, there is value in learning how to not make those mistakes, but if they don't add to the game aren't possible frustations like those just taking away from it?

but they do add to it. sadly now people just want things easy without the work. if everyone gets the reward just for showing up it doesn't have much meaning or value. but if people earn a reward by learning from there failures once they finally figure it out it is far more rewarding then for it to be just handed to you.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

Sounds like dumbed down is another way of saying they did theur best to not alienate a portion of their player base. How about they add in a pitfall during install that if you put in your code wrong it disables the entire game for you so that you just can't play it from the outset instead of doing the long drawn out process of getting pissed off because you did everything wrong builing your character and don't know why.

Sure, there is value in learning how to not make those mistakes, but if they don't add to the game aren't possible frustations like those just taking away from it?

Or they could make you guess your install code. That's a real man's game!

[Mr. Laz]

fyi - apparently Microcenter is going to have Diablo 3 PC on sale for $49.99 starting on the 15th.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Laz

reading all those builds make me sad for the old days.

Those builds had to be figured out and if you didn't go in with a certain build you got totally owned in Hell.

SO FAR ... it doesn't even look like you will have any builds in DIII


I'm sorry but to me that is a big difference.

I supposed the play could be difficult enough in DIII that you have to play a certain style to survive instead of have certain skills but i doubt it. If they make the game that difficult they will have all the shitty players crying and complaining and it will get nerfed.

yup, that's the path pretty much every game has gone down. Shitty players cry and things get nerfed and eventually the game is easy for everyone. I hate that shit. Like in Call of Duty, just for an example, it's so dumbed down that a person with 1000 hours of playing experience won't be that much better than a person with 12 hours of playing experience.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Bump

yup, that's the path pretty much every game has gone down. Shitty players cry and things get nerfed and eventually the game is easy for everyone. I hate that shit. Like in Call of Duty, just for an example, it's so dumbed down that a person with 1000 hours of playing experience won't be that much better than a person with 12 hours of playing experience.

Opposite with SW:TOR. People cried that end game stuff was too easy and now they made it incredibly difficult.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Pants

Opposite with SW:TOR. People cried that end game stuff was too easy and now they made it incredibly difficult.

hmmm. that makes me want to resub and get to max level. Hard raid encounters.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by Laz

fyi - apparently Microcenter is going to have Diablo 3 PC on sale for $49.99 starting on the 15th.

That is my buy, i'll be there at open. Of course it doesn't hurt that I love Microcenter anyways!