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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:21 PM   #9871
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Oh, OK. I think it would tarnish his legacy a little bit if he didn't at least win some conference championships considering the expectations and the undeniable fact that there are no real excuses for failure at Texas. But I don't think he'd fail. I think he'd be able to have Texas at the top of the Big12 and in the national championship hunt at a minimum.
He resurrected Mich St from the depths of probation & in their final yr on it got them to double digit wins (although he didn't coach the team in their bowl game which was the 10th win). Perles left a mess in his wake there.

He rebuilt LSU into a powerhouse & won 2(?) league titles & a MNC & laid the foundation for another.

He's won 3 so far at Alabama since 2007.

Pretty much nothing can tarnish his legacy at this point in terms of on the field results. Best coach of the past quarter century IMO.

I believe he'd win & win big at Texas. It's hard to predict MNC's for anyone b/c of everything that goes into it but they'd be elite & in the mix again nationally.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:38 PM   #9872
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It's a balancing act. Texas is practically in a civil war over this issue. Perry is trying to make UT more accessible for kids, but there is a large faction who want the school to be more of a public ivy and think Rick is trying to turn it into a community college.

It's not like KU has crazy high requirements. 21 on the ACT and a 2.0 makes you eligible, and the acceptance rate is 93%. KSU has the same requirements and accepts 99%.
Most schools in the region are the same in terms of student quality as it should be, since they're state schools providing a value option. Kansas, Missouri, Iowa State, Arkansas, Okie State all have a 75th percentile ACT score of 28. Vandy is at 34 for the gifted students.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:41 PM   #9873
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Most schools in the region are the same in terms of student quality as it should be, since they're state schools providing a value option. Kansas, Missouri, Iowa State, Arkansas, Okie State all have a 75th percentile ACT score of 28. Vandy is at 34 for the gifted students.
I agree. I just don't think Kansas has gone overboard in terms of being unattainable for local kids.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:45 PM   #9874
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I agree. I just don't think Kansas has gone overboard in terms of being unattainable for local kids.
They haven't, because the state board (from what I understand) has resisted their efforts to increase selectivity. I believe that is the correct call because Kansas taxpayers fund a large portion of the operations for KU. If a gifted student in Kansas wants a high caliber education he has options all over the nation to choose. The purpose of KU is to educate Kansans (or in my case Missourians who grew up nearby).
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Kansas basketball has been put on probation by the NCAA 5 times. This ties them for the most ever along with Minnesota, Cincinnati, and UT Pan Am.

Kansas has been banned outright from the tournament on three separate occasions. One of the bans was for multiple years.
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By the way...

Kansas basketball has been put on probation by the NCAA 5 times. This ties them for the most ever along with Minnesota, Cincinnati, and UT Pan Am.

Kansas has been banned outright from the tournament on three separate occasions. One of the bans was for multiple years.

I've always said you can't trust those dirty UT-Pan Am's.
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He resurrected Mich St from the depths of probation & in their final yr on it got them to double digit wins (although he didn't coach the team in their bowl game which was the 10th win). Perles left a mess in his wake there.

He rebuilt LSU into a powerhouse & won 2(?) league titles & a MNC & laid the foundation for another.

He's won 3 so far at Alabama since 2007.

Pretty much nothing can tarnish his legacy at this point in terms of on the field results. Best coach of the past quarter century IMO.

I believe he'd win & win big at Texas. It's hard to predict MNC's for anyone b/c of everything that goes into it but they'd be elite & in the mix again nationally.
I heard a guest on 810 today saying that he actually thinks there's a chance some crazy Alabama fan might try to assassinate Saban if he left for Texas.
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I heard a guest on 810 today saying that he actually thinks there's a chance some crazy Alabama fan might try to assassinate Saban if he left for Texas.
Right after those crazy right wingers take out Obama, no doubt.
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I heard a guest on 810 today saying that he actually thinks there's a chance some crazy Alabama fan might try to assassinate Saban if he left for Texas.
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Interesting. It appears Phog, Harp, Owens, Brown, Roy, Norm, and Quin each have 1 probation. Self and Mike Anderson have zero.
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By the way...

Kansas basketball has been put on probation by the NCAA 5 times. This ties them for the most ever along with Minnesota, Cincinnati, and UT Pan Am.

Kansas has been banned outright from the tournament on three separate occasions. One of the bans was for multiple years.
Tied with other programs.

Not taking number of years into account.

No mention of severity of violations.

Moving goalposts to basketball only when many programs have far more violations than KU.

Yep, I can easily live with this.
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Tied with other programs.

Not taking number of years into account.

No mention of severity of violations.

Moving goalposts to basketball only when many programs have far more violations than KU.

Yep, I can easily live with this.
When did I say anything other than specifically basketball...or take years of basketball played, severity, etc? I didn't.

No team has been hit with more sanctions than Kansas basketball. Period.
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When did I say anything other than specifically basketball...or take years of basketball played, severity, etc? I didn't.

No team has been hit with more sanctions than Kansas basketball. Period.
Isn't KU the only school ever that was not allowed to defend their tournament title due to sanctions?
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If the Big 12 can survive having it's highest profile basketball program being the most sanctioned NCAA program in history and a coach framing a dead player for dealing drugs, maybe...just maybe...the SEC can survive an Auburn basketball scandal.
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Let me know when Kansas basketball is no longer the most sanctioned program in the history of college sports.
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Does it talk about the most sanctioned program in the history of college sports,or does it steer clear of Kansas basketball?
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How did I get called out? I accurately said that Kansas basketball is the most sanctioned program in NCAA history. Nothing to call out...it's true.
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If you don't want people pointing out that your team has been sanctioned by the NCAA more than any program in history, don't support the team that has been sanctioned more than any program in history.
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