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Old 03-22-2009, 12:15 AM  
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Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Spoiler!

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

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Old 10-31-2014, 11:39 AM   #466
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Flowers is eligible he was cut by the chiefs not a free agent
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:59 PM   #467
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Flowers is eligible he was cut by the chiefs not a free agent
Ah, you are correct. I figure the ship has sailed so I won't claim him, but others can.
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Old 11-09-2014, 10:22 AM   #468
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Old 11-09-2014, 10:30 AM   #469
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Man I'm screwed I wanted to draft Wilson but I was too late posting it that year so I had to take chief picks. Geno has been a flop and AJ is on IR I still believe in him and if dalton has more games like Thursday he can take that job next season.
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:02 PM   #470
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Man I'm screwed I wanted to draft Wilson but I was too late posting it that year so I had to take chief picks. Geno has been a flop and AJ is on IR I still believe in him and if dalton has more games like Thursday he can take that job next season.

Early returns on my draft this year are disastrous. That's what I get for investing in non-skill positions.
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Wow, my team had a collapse this year. Everything seemed to go wrong. I got only 12 starts from my rookie class, and I had injuries all over the field. I hope some of these rookies gain traction next year, because I'm learning that one bad draft will really hurt you.

My review of the year:

Backfield - I was good here with Russell Wilson and Jamaal Charles, and a journeyman fullback. However, I lost CJ Spiller for most of the year, but Denard Robinson is coming along and stepped in. This wasn't my problem. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I win.

Receivers - This is another bright spot, with Kendall Wright and Dwayne Bowe starting, and rookie Donte Moncrief coming in as a strong #3. I've also got depth and a developing Albert Wilson. On the tight end side, I lost Tony Gonzalez last year, but replaced him with Fasano and Travis Kelce, so I'm solid if not spectacular. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I win.

Offensive line - Disaster here. I lost multiple starters as well as key depth. I drafted two rookies very high and they both struggled (Morgan Moses and Cyrus Kouandjio). Ryan Harris manned my right side and Menelik Watson covered part of the season on the left. At guard, I had Alex Boone (solid) and Mike McGlynn/Jeff Linkenbach. My rookie draft pick never saw the field. I have Hudson at center. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I think I lose.

Special teams - Santos and Colquitt. You make the call. Comparison with the real Chiefs: tie.

Defensive backs Wow. I thought I was in good shape, but my offseason killed me with various surprise cuts and retirements. Then Alfonzo Dennard got benched and Baccari Rambo got cut. My defensive backfield was decimated. I ended up starting Kendrick Lewis and Reshad Jones at safety, and Sean Smith and Dennard/Chris Owens at corner. This unit completely blew up on me. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I lose badly.

Linebackers. I got a break here as two late-round picks for me have turned into starters on the outside. I've got Hali on one side, and AJ Klein and Trevor Reilly on the other. I lost DJ for the year, but have Rey Maualuga, and I ended up starting Josh Mauga. Zach Brown, who got off to a great career start, appears to be falling by the wayside. Comparison to real Chiefs: I lose badly. I should've drafted Justin Houston.

Defensive line - I invested very heavily in this group last year, and got two starters out of it: Brandon Williams at NT and Star Lotulelei at 3-4 DE. Since Devito went down early, Ropati Pitoitua stepped up and started, and I don't have much else. Comparison to real Chiefs. I think I lose this one, but it may be close to a draw.


This season was horrific for my team. Free agency defections, injuries, and what's looking like a weak draft all combined to really hurt.
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My draft needs this year:

High priority

Cornerback - Desperate. I need another starter and a nickel back at a minimum.
Guard - How did I go from five starters to essentially one in a year? I really need a new Day One starter here.
Offensive tackle - I've invested 1 1st round and two 2nd round picks in LTs the past two years, and I think I might have one of them starting at RT in the NFL.
Free safety - I keep investing low-round picks and it's not working.


Moderate priority

Kicker - Santos worries me a bit
Outside linebacker - I've had some luck getting bodies on the field, but need a star.
Inside linebacker - Given my other needs, I'll hope that DJ comes back
Defensive end - If Devito comes back, I'm fine, but I could always use one more guy in the rotation
Tight end - I need depth unless a star becomes magically available

Low priority

Nose tackle - If I get a DE I can move Star Lotulelei back here.
Wide receiver - I'm pretty good here. No superstars, but solid
Fullback - I think I'll just go with an extra TE or WR most of the time.
Quarterback - Maybe a backup
Center - Maybe some depth

No need

Strong safety - I'm good here unless I want some depth.
Halfback - I'm strong and deep
Punter - Colquitt. Enough said.
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Last year the draft pool didn't match my needs at all, but this year is looking really promising. My areas of need appear to have a lot of depth for the most part, as long as my #1 guy falls into place.
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My team looks like crap. How the hell do I not have Jeff Allen or Ron Parker? O-line manages to be worse than the real Chiefs. Need to put some effort into the draft this year and see if it can be turned around.
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My team looks like crap. How the hell do I not have Jeff Allen or Ron Parker? O-line manages to be worse than the real Chiefs. Need to put some effort into the draft this year and see if it can be turned around.
Yeah, my team was looking really good two years ago, and last year it all went to Hades. I need a good draft this year to reload.
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I'm screwed at QB. Both top guys will be gone by 18 I'm gonna have to get creative or take a chance on someone early.


Rest of my team is good question rain man do I get to keep Crabtree or does he go FA
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I'm screwed at QB. Both top guys will be gone by 18 I'm gonna have to get creative or take a chance on someone early.


Rest of my team is good question rain man do I get to keep Crabtree or does he go FA

Somewhere along the line we talked about this, and I make a reference in Post 445. We decided that for now we would NOT lose a free agent unless they were a Chief, but we'll monitor the impact of that. I think in the long run if we're getting free agents coming to the Chiefs and we're not losing free agents, it may give us an unfair advantage over the real NFL. But then again we also have some disadvantages, so it might balance out.

Our rules at the current time are:

1. If a Chief leaves as a free agent and he's on our roster, we lose him.
2. If a Chief gets cut and he's on our roster, we can choose to keep him.
3. If the Chiefs make a trade and everyone they give up (picks and players) is on our roster, we can choose to accept or regret the trade.
4. If a player on our roster leaves his team in any way, it doesn't matter.


Per Rule 2, I think we can choose to keep or release Dwayne Bowe, which seems a little unfair since we'll also get to sign Maclin, but whatever. We'll monitor.

Per Rule 3, I think the only trade on the books right now is the 5th round choice for Grubbs at guard, so we can choose to accept or reject that trade.

Bottom line: according to the current rules, you can keep Crabtree. But we may adjust that in the future by consensus.
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Can anyone find a list of free agent gains and losses so far? Gains will include guys signed in mid-season last year. I see the gains as:

WR Jeremy Maclin
G Paul Fanaika
SS Tyvon Branch
WR Jason Avant
LB Jojo Dickson
T Curtis Feigt
CB Jamell Fleming
DB Aaron Hester
LS Jorgen Hus
WR Corbin Louks
DB Deji Olatoye
QB Terrelle Pryor
G Jarron Pughsley
WR Da'rick Rogers
TE Adam Schilz
T Derek Sherrod
WR Fred Williams
LS James Winchester
DT Jerel Worthy
DT Vaughn Martin
CB Shaquille Richardson

You can also elect to trade away your 5th round choice to obtain Ben Grubbs

Losses:

Rodney Hudson, C (signed with Oakland)
Jeffrey Linkenbach, OL (signed with Miami)
Kevin Vickerson, DL (signed with the New York Jets)
Kurt Coleman, S (signed with Carolina)
Thomas Gafford, LS (signed with Chicago)
Joe Mays, LB (signed with New York Jets)

Anyone else?

What do we think about Dwayne Bowe? Technically he was cut, but it was really a contract deal. Do we keep him or should we in good faith lose him?


Also, if any of these guys are on your roster, you should have kicked them off. (I just found this list of last year's free agent losses.)

Dexter McCluster, RB/WR (signed with Tennessee)
Branden Albert, OT (signed with Miami)
Geoff Schwartz, OT (signed with New York Giants)
Jon Asamoah, G (signed with Atlanta)
Tyson Jackson, DE (signed with Atlanta)
Jerrell Powe, DL (signed with Houston)
Akeem Jordan, LB (signed with Washington)
Quintin Demps, KR/S (signed with New York Giants)
Kendrick Lewis, FS (signed with Houston)
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My current roster:

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks)
Geno Smith (Jets)
Terrelle Pryor
Tyler Bray

HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills)
Denard Robinson (Jaguars)

FB/H-Back
Trey Millard, FB (49ers).

WR
Jeremy Maclin
Dwayne Bowe
Kendall Wright (Titans)
Donte Moncrief (Colts).
Albert Wilson
Donnie Avery
Frankie Hammond
Corbin Louks
Da'rick Rogers
Fred Williams
Jason Avant

TE
Travis Kelce (Chiefs)
Anthony Fasano
Adam Schilz

OT
Menelik Watson (Raiders)
Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins)
Ryan Harris, RT
Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills)
Derek Sherrod
Curtis Feigt

G
Alex Boone (49ers)
Ben Grubbs (I'm definitely taking that 5th-round trade)
Mike McGlynn, G
David Yankey, G (Vikings)
Jarron Pughsley
Paul Fanaika

C
(None)

K
Cairo Santos, K

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
James Winchester
Jorgen Hus

FS
Jordan Poyer (Eagles)
Kelcie McCray, FS
Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Tyvon Branch
Baccari Rambo (Redskins)

CB
Sean Smith
Alphonso Dennard (Patriots)
Jamell Fleming
Chris Owens
Shaquille Richardson
Aaron Hester
Deji Olatoye

OLB
Tamba Hali
AJ Klein (Panthers)
Josh Martin, OLB
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers)
Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets).
Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints)
Jojo Dickson

ILB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
Derrick Johnson
Josh Mauga, ILB
Zach Brown (Titans)

DE
Star Lotulelei (Panthers)
Mike DeVito
Ropati Pitoitua
Vance Walker
Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons)

NT
Brandon Williams (Ravens)
Alex Carrington (Bills)
Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers)
Jerel Worthy
Vaughn Martin



Free Agent Losses

Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)
Jeffrey Linkenbach, G
Kendrick Lewis (Maybe I should've lost him last year?
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Okay, my needs are:

#1 center
#1 left tackle
#2 cornerback
#1 free safety
#1 outside linebacker
#2 3-4 defensive end
#2 right tackle
#2 tight end
#3 guard
#3 quarterback

Time to start looking through the draft.
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