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Old 02-01-2013, 09:27 AM  
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Reid interested in Alex Smith...

Didn't see this posted anywhere.. anyways sorry if its a repost.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ers-alex-smith

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Old 02-22-2013, 10:04 PM   #811
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They should, dunno if they will or not.

What are your thoughts on A Smith?
I hate him pretty much.

The only cause for hope I would have is that the guy really played well last year before he got hurt, and that he'd be coming here with an offensive staff that can coach up QBs.

If they took a QB early in the draft and had him, I would let it play out, but I'm not happy about another retread ultimately.

I think someone like Tyler Bray would be the ultimate risk/reward guy to pair with Smith.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:04 PM   #812
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It will be the norm, we will be just out of range, or not worth trading up etc.


More things change.
We are always out of range. Too low, or in this case, too high if you can believe that. The Chiefs always avoid the QB's because of value or it not being worth moving up. They stick with the smart safe moves, and man has it paid off.

If they are going to draft one in the 2nd then just ****ing start him. Please give away a 4th round pick(essentially a 3rd) plus paying a guy a decent amount just so we can have a "vet" QB while the other guy learns. Just ****ing put the guy in. I don't give a **** about winning 9 games with Alex Smith. QB's don't need years off to sit unless they are incredibly raw. This isn't 2002. I made it 10 minutes before I let this piss me off before it even happened.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:06 PM   #813
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Cassell 2.0

The only reason smith was good was because he had a all pro line, a all pro defense, and some good weapons on offense.
C'mon now. He's a far better QB than Cassel.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:06 PM   #814
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I hate him pretty much.

The only cause for hope I would have is that the guy really played well last year before he got hurt, and that he'd be coming here with an offensive staff that can coach up QBs.

If they took a QB early in the draft and had him, I would let it play out, but I'm not happy about another retread ultimately.

I think someone like Tyler Bray would be the ultimate risk/reward guy to pair with Smith.
Yeah, but he also came from a staff that can really coach up QB's. So I'm not sure we can get much more out of him.

He'd pretty much be a stop gap, until they could either find the next guy or get the next guy ready.

But, with the way the rookies are now, I really don't think you need a stop gap to get him ready.

This would be extremely disappointing, IMO, and if they do this, they better damn well win next year.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:07 PM   #815
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C'mon now. He's a far better QB than Cassel.
Yeah, shit ton better.


But if we're looking for "better" than Cassel, shouldn't be to terribly tough to find.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:10 PM   #816
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Yeah, shit ton better.


But if we're looking for "better" than Cassel, shouldn't be to terribly tough to find.
Yep. Going ahead trying to win a SB with a game manager is foolish. It's going to work again someday, but the odds are low. Trying to be that team is stupid. Taking a chance on a guy with potential is a better play in my mind. Even in the best possible situation Alex Smith is a game manager and he won't be in the best situation possible next year in KC.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:11 PM   #817
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I wouldn't say "far better" nor "shit ton better". Maybe, a little better.

They both had 'a' good season. Nothing more than a pair of medicore-game managing-noodle armed backups.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:11 PM   #818
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We are always out of range. Too low, or in this case, too high if you can believe that. The Chiefs always avoid the QB's because of value or it not being worth moving up. They stick with the smart safe moves, and man has it paid off.
That's so depressing.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:12 PM   #819
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Yeah, but he also came from a staff that can really coach up QB's. So I'm not sure we can get much more out of him.

He'd pretty much be a stop gap, until they could either find the next guy or get the next guy ready.

But, with the way the rookies are now, I really don't think you need a stop gap to get him ready.

This would be extremely disappointing, IMO, and if they do this, they better damn well win next year.
See, I don't agree that all rookies drafted high are basically NFL ready at QB. I think they are getting thrown to the fire quicker, but I see nothing wrong with a guy sitting a year or 2 to really develop.

I think that the QBs that have come out lately have spoiled everyone.

I think if they got the Alex Smith that was in SF last year they'd win a lot. I think this defense is going to be a bear to deal with next year. I think the attacking one gap defense is a perfect fit for Poe and we will see true playmakers shine in it.

70% completion, 13/5 TD ratio in basically 9 1/4th games isn't horrendous. That's basically a 23/10 ratio over the course of a season.

Smith is still only 28, so that's another plus.

I'm just trying to find the editable parts of this shit sandwich.
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I hate him pretty much.

The only cause for hope I would have is that the guy really played well last year before he got hurt, and that he'd be coming here with an offensive staff that can coach up QBs.

If they took a QB early in the draft and had him, I would let it play out, but I'm not happy about another retread ultimately.

I think someone like Tyler Bray would be the ultimate risk/reward guy to pair with Smith.
I want Geno in the draft. But I like Bray. We can get his head together and Reid can coach him up. He's as talented as anyone. Take a guy like Patterson WR after trading down, taking Alec Ogletree with 34 pick because of BPA strategy and then take Bray with compensatory 3rd? Might not be too bad of an idea. But i do want Geno. I like kid and with our coaching staff he'd be good
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:13 PM   #821
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That's so depressing.
The idea of more coming is even more depressing. The idea that some Chiefs fans want it is not surprising. Neither is the media suggesting it should happen. The media predict and preach that we should get some retread QB. We get them, and while we shit ourselves for a few years the media stops paying attention. Then they show up only to suggest the same thing, having not seen what had just happened.
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The one thing I cant stand is Cassel 2.0. Alex Smith won a ****ing playoff game, Cassel hasnt done shit
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See, I don't agree that all rookies drafted high are basically NFL ready at QB. I think they are getting thrown to the fire quicker, but I see nothing wrong with a guy sitting a year or 2 to really develop.

I think that the QBs that have come out lately have spoiled everyone.

I think if they got the Alex Smith that was in SF last year they'd win a lot. I think this defense is going to be a bear to deal with next year. I think the attacking one gap defense is a perfect fit for Poe and we will see true playmakers shine in it.

70% completion, 13/5 TD ratio in basically 9 1/4th games isn't horrendous. That's basically a 23/10 ratio over the course of a season.

Smith is still only 28, so that's another plus.

I'm just trying to find the editable parts of this shit sandwich.
Problem with a year or 2 developing is, he's prob going to get 2-3 years after that. So you won't know one way or another until about 3-4 years what you've got.

Plus, I'm a believer that even with sitting, he's still going to have a learning period after that and I'd rather him just learn in the fire.

And if you think the defense will be a bear, woudln't it make more sense to let your rookie QB lean on them early and our running game to get his feet wet?

****, I just don't think I have it in me for another retread. I said it last night about FOles, say it again here. This is just too damn familiar and I feel pretty ****ing dirty even entertaining the idea.

Yeah, his last year wasn't horrendous, neither was 2011. Neither was Matt Cassel's 2010 or 08.
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He's under contract another year. They shouldn't even touch that subject. Let him play out the year if this trade does in fact happen.
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