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Old 12-26-2005, 07:28 PM  
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NFL Network just reported we're 28 million over the cap
Going into next season.

I guess we can kiss any significant additions to the defense goodbye.

Who's going to get the axe? Priest? Bell? Barber? Woods?
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:30 PM   #2
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28 mil holy smokes. i really doubt we are that much over.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:31 PM   #3
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28 mil holy smokes. i really doubt we are that much over.
We are, according to NFL Network.

Denver and Oakland are way over too, so that's good news at least.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:34 PM   #4
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Cap stats are meaningless this far ahead.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:35 PM   #5
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Cap stats are meaningless this far ahead.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:39 PM   #6
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Why?
Because there are players that will be moved, cut, or who will rework contracts.

Kendrell Bell will be cut, and the bonus he is supposed to get that is counted against next year's cap right now will be removed from the equation, to name one example.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:41 PM   #7
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We are, according to NFL Network.

Denver and Oakland are way over too, so that's good news at least.
that's good, but the chargers are in GREAT cap shape from what i've read.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:44 PM   #8
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Because there are players that will be moved, cut, or who will rework contracts.

Kendrell Bell will be cut, and the bonus he is supposed to get that is counted against next year's cap right now will be removed from the equation, to name one example.
Are you sure on Bell?

That's still a buttload of money to move around.
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Are you sure on Bell?

That's still a buttload of money to move around.
I don't remember the details on Bell's contract, but I know that he signed a contract that was cap friendly for this season, and that made it easy, and saved cap dollars, if he were cut going into next season.

I also know that Carl, and Lynn Stiles have always found ways to manipulate the cap.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:57 PM   #10
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Its probably inaccurate, as is what they are saying about Denver. If you guys recall, this past offseason King Carl gave Kendrell Bell an apparently large contract, but as PFT reported, it was a two tiered bonus with the larger portion due in spring, 2006. He obviously wont get that, but its still on the cap as of now till he is officially cut and/or restructured. There probably will be a major paycut coming with Holmes as well since the Chiefs have all the leverage now. All these figures are very inaccurate.

Denver for example is talked about as being about 20 million over the cap. But that assumes Courtney Brown will get his 8 million option bonus this spring which he will not. It also counts in the last year of Gerard Warren's deal which automatically voids out at his option which he will exercise so that he can get a new contract from us instead, that is 6 million. Tom Nalen is projected to get 6 million which he wont get. Tom will most likely retire from reports and Myers will be inserted into the lineup at Center or Guard. The amount of money allocated to Lepsis next year is also fake, his deal will void out at his option. In reality, Denver is in good cap shape, especially because for the first time in about 5 years, there is ZERO dead money on the cap. All the money we had to carry because of accelerated bonuses frrom Gardener, Griese etc. is gone. However, we still have to re-sign our guys. We will be in okay cap shape, but we gotta re-sign Warren and Lepsis.
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:03 PM   #11
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Good post SoCal

Every year you hear that we're 10 million over, 10 million under, whatever, and it never seems to turn out that way.
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Kendrell Bell got $3.5M up front. He's due $3.5M this offseason and another bonus of $3M next.

Currently he's counting about $5M against next year's cap. That won't be the case come February.

Anybody that's publishing cap numbers RIGHT NOW, for NEXT season, is fishing. Nothing more.
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every year the same s... CP had never problems with our salary cap and nobody knows now which player will be on our team next year or will retire (Shields,Roaf,Holmes)
so its really pure speculation and pretty dumb.
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Does anyone know what happens with the bonuses of players that retire?
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I don't understand all of this "capology" stuff but I hear we are waiting to see if Priest is physically unable to play or just wants to retire. I think that is why Priest keeps seeing doctor after doctor. He's looking for one that will declare him "unable to play". But that makes a huge difference in our cap situation. I doubt Carl wants to pay him big money to caddy for LJ. Couple that with what Bell is supposed to get and it is a lot of money. Besides, isn't the cap supposed to increase next year?
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