Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 108

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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patteeu · 05-13-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Did they go 8-8?
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No, why do you ask?

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Then you extend him.

What if he declines?
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RunKC · 05-13-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

what did Indy do last ****ing year?
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When did Indy make noise in the playoffs? They didn't. They were one-and-done.

What they did last year was very rare. Pretty sure it's never happened before.

Saying that this team has to make the playoffs or it's a failure of a season is ridiculous.

Rasputin · 05-13-2013, 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=RunKC;9678676]You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.[/QUOTE]

What the hell did Indy just do with Andrew Luck?

patteeu · 05-13-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What if he declines?
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When?

patteeu · 05-13-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.

What the hell did Indy just do with Andrew Luck?

As I just mentioned, they lost the only game they played in January.

RunKC · 05-13-2013, 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=KC Tattoo;9678715]

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You couldn't be more wrong.

Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year.

Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston.

Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year.

Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him.

It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new.

It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year.
Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.[/QUOTE]

What the hell did Indy just do with Andrew Luck?

They didn't do a damn thing in January last year. They were one-and-done.

That's not making noise in January folks.

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

No, why do you ask?

Because people are acting like 8-8 should be the goal because going from 2-14 to better than 8-8 is unheard of...

I know he put a qualifier in there. You guys aren't that slick patty
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=RunKC;9678721]

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

They didn't do a damn thing in January last year. They were one-and-done.

That's not making noise in January folks.

yeah I caught your qualifier.

They were better than 8-8.

They played winning football and had a chance in the playoffs.

How many 8-8 teams have ever won a playoff game?
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

When?

Dude I'm not talking in circles with you.

It's obviously what was said.
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 11:48 AM

Oh and who beat them in the playoffs?

The champs
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BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 11:49 AM

That's funny shit. Using "January" instead of playoffs to try to make point. I've seen it all now

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 11:50 AM

When is the last time the team with the first pick in the draft returned 6 pro bowlers?

So we shouldn't expect the same results as a team with a rookie QB and less talent on the roster?

Rasputin · 05-13-2013, 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=RunKC;9678721]

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

They didn't do a damn thing in January last year. They were one-and-done.

That's not making noise in January folks.

I would be happy to go to the playoffs with a rooky quarterback but to go back to the playoffs with a retread vet and lose is ****ing what we have been doing and we never get anywhere for it the following seasons. ****ing geeze people.

A rooky quarterback you can bring in guys to upgrade the team for years to come and give yourself 10+ years of Super Bowl window of opportunity. With retreads you are limited and have less than 5 years if they don't break apart. The best chance we had was with Trent Green and he gave us 5 years. This franchise averages quarterbacks 2.5 years for the last 30 years that is not building for a Championship. It's the same with Alex Smith he will be lucky to last 3 years as a Chief that doesn't get blasted out of the starting line up with injury. Assuming he stays healthy he is still just a mediocre quarterback that relies heavy on the ground game to set up play action.

Messier · 05-13-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Because people are acting like 8-8 should be the goal because going from 2-14 to better than 8-8 is unheard of...

I know he put a qualifier in there. You guys aren't that slick patty
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Are there? Because this all started when some here turned the news that the 3rd becomes a 2nd if the Chiefs go 8-8, into, the Chiefs are satisfied with 8-8, which if a wildly inaccurate view. The "realistic" fans like to think they have the correct stance on every Chiefs issue, but they fly off the handle with some theories. Thinking Clark Hunt has some sort of mandate to not draft a QB in the first, and thinking the "true" fans are satisfied with mediocrity are silly notions.

05-06-2013, 07:21 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3736009	If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season. So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3545421	[QUOTE=RunKC;9678676]You couldn't be more wrong. Alex Smith is learning a new system with a new team. And 8-8 is a good bar to put this compensation at for the first year. Matt Schaub was traded for the same price and he was only 7-9 his first year in Houston. Jay Cutler was traded for more and he was only 8-8 in his first year. Hell Trent Green was traded for more compensation too and we finished 6-10 the first year with him. It's not just about the QB. It's a team sport, and right now our team barely knows each other at practice because almost half of them are brand new. It's amazing that people think that a 2-14 team with the 1st pick in the draft is supposed to make the playoffs and make noise in January the next year. Pretty sure a team has never done that before and for good reason.[/QUOTE] What the hell did Indy just do with Andrew Luck? __________________ A Brave Man Once Requested Me To Answer Questions That Are Key 'Is It To Be Or Not To Be' And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
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SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	Oh and who beat them in the playoffs? The champs Posted via Mobile Device
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BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $2119122	That's funny shit. Using "January" instead of playoffs to try to make point. I've seen it all now
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BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $2119122	When is the last time the team with the first pick in the draft returned 6 pro bowlers? So we shouldn't expect the same results as a team with a rookie QB and less talent on the roster?
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