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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

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Old 03-14-2012, 09:26 AM   #871
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And that's why you are a ****ing idiot.

The Big 12 IS in trouble, and always will be until texass decides to leave.

Sure you can replace them with some nobody school, but then the conference becomes a mid-major and significantly less valuable.

No other major conference is at risk of falling to shambles based on the actions of one egomaniac school.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:27 AM   #872
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lol, I know right.

Also...I wonder if ever in the history of college athletics has a conference had two teams leave and then not even a full year later the conference lands a TV media deal that actually increases the revenue per school.
The Big XII has done that two years in a row. They got the Fox deal after NU and CU bolted.

If the deals happens, it is a positive sign for the Big XII....but if one billion dollar type deal did not make the Big XII completely secure and keep Texas and OU from flirting and looking around, then I doubt a second one will.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:35 AM   #873
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And that's why you are a ****ing idiot.

The Big 12 IS in trouble, and always will be until texass decides to leave.

Sure you can replace them with some nobody school, but then the conference becomes a mid-major and significantly less valuable.

No other major conference is at risk of falling to shambles based on the actions of one egomaniac school. This TV deal changes nothing.
Don't confuse opinions with facts. The facts: 4 schools have left. 2 schools have committed to play in the conference next season. Although West Virginia and TCU may not have the history of Nebraska, based on the current status of their respective football programs, they are more than adequate. West Virginia is a very good basketball school, and TCU is probably on the same level of Nebraska or Colorado in basketball.

The Big 12 is probably not done with their membership. Any number of schools are considering moves, and the Big 12 has been mentioned prominently with a number of schools.

I am well aware that a number of fans from Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU and Mizzou not only believe but strongly desire for the Big 12 to fold up like a circus tent.

My opinion? The circus has left town and took their tents with them. The Big 12 is going to be fine...and I know that really pisses off some people.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:55 AM   #874
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Don't confuse opinions with facts. The facts: 4 schools have left. 2 schools have committed to play in the conference next season. Although West Virginia and TCU may not have the history of Nebraska, based on the current status of their respective football programs, they are more than adequate. West Virginia is a very good basketball school, and TCU is probably on the same level of Nebraska or Colorado in basketball.

The Big 12 is probably not done with their membership. Any number of schools are considering moves, and the Big 12 has been mentioned prominently with a number of schools.

I am well aware that a number of fans from Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU and Mizzou not only believe but strongly desire for the Big 12 to fold up like a circus tent.

My opinion? The circus has left town and took their tents with them. The Big 12 is going to be fine...and I know that really pisses off some people.

It's embarrassing really. Especially those that are constantly wishing harm on the Big 12 and calling schools that were loyal to each other names and insulting them.

Not only that, when the situation changes, the damaging comments and arguments change with it.

I don't get why if they are so happy with their new conference why they continue to wish harm on those who stayed. But it's over and now there's much more money. It's a win-win I suppose. If you didn't want to be here then leave and GTFO already.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:12 AM   #875
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GTFO? How would you describe what we did if it wasn't getting the **** out? I don't wish harm on anyone, we got the better deal out of it, best of luck to the beaks and everyone else that got stuck and left behind.
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I wish the big12 and all it's members well. I'm still excited to be moving on to the sec, and a bright future for ol' mizzou.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:51 AM   #877
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I hesitate to start this up again, but you do realize that Missouri is directly responsible for a lot of the drama, right?
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Nice to see the beakers continuing to offer lip service to their Texas overlords.

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Old 03-14-2012, 11:42 AM   #879
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Ugh, the stupidity that flows from this thread from both sides is crazy.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:53 AM   #880
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Who woulda ever believed trimming the fat that is mu and texas a+m would be this valuable?

Obviously the conference wasn't going anywhere but to make THIS much more $$?

Damn...
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:00 PM   #881
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Don't confuse opinions with facts. The facts: 4 schools have left. 2 schools have committed to play in the conference next season. Although West Virginia and TCU may not have the history of Nebraska, based on the current status of their respective football programs, they are more than adequate. West Virginia is a very good basketball school, and TCU is probably on the same level of Nebraska or Colorado in basketball.

The Big 12 is probably not done with their membership. Any number of schools are considering moves, and the Big 12 has been mentioned prominently with a number of schools.

I am well aware that a number of fans from Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU and Mizzou not only believe but strongly desire for the Big 12 to fold up like a circus tent.

My opinion? The circus has left town and took their tents with them. The Big 12 is going to be fine...and I know that really pisses off some people.
Wanting the Big XII to fail and thinking it will fail are two very different things. I don't want the Big XII to fail. I think it is bad for the midwest as a region, and bad for college sports. However, given that the survival of the conference is based solely on whether Texas is happy and wants to stay is not something I would want to hang my hat on. Texas is the serial cheater with the wandering eye, you have constantly be careful not to trust them too much.

As long as Texas (some would say OU too, but since OU will do whatever Texas does, it really is up to Texas) decides to continue to stay in the Big XII, the Big XII will be fine. If I were the other members of the Big XII, I would be constantly looking for ways to increase the penalties of leaving the conference....the tougher it is for Texas to leave, the more likely they are to stay, unless the money gained by leaving reaches epic proportions, which one could argue that that is nearly on hand.

So I hope the rumors of the new ESPN deal for the Big XII are true...for two very distinct reasons:

1. It does provide security for the Big XII, which is good for our region of the country, college sports in general, and for Kansas City.

2. It is certain to help drive up the price of the new SEC deal that will be coming, and that certainly will benefit Mizzou.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:01 PM   #882
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Who woulda ever believed trimming the fat that is mu and texas a+m would be this valuable?

Obviously the conference wasn't going anywhere but to make THIS much more $$?

Damn...
Yeah, getting rid of a quality program like Mizzou, along with its millions of viewers and fans, really drove up the price of the tv package. Idiot as usual.
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Yeah, getting rid of a quality program like Mizzou, along with its millions of viewers and fans, really drove up the price of the tv package. Idiot as usual.
The extension, when combined with the Big 12’s existing Fox TV deal, would bring the conference’s total TV revenue to $2.5 billion through 2025. By SportsBusiness Daily’s calculations, each school in the 10-team league would make $5 million more per year under the new deal, with total TV revenue pushing close to $20 million a year.

It is what it is.
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The extension, when combined with the Big 12’s existing Fox TV deal, would bring the conference’s total TV revenue to $2.5 billion through 2025. By SportsBusiness Daily’s calculations, each school in the 10-team league would make $5 million more per year under the new deal, with total TV revenue pushing close to $20 million a year.

It is what it is.
No kidding, genious. Guess what? If you think the deal is bigger than it would be with Mizzou and A & M, as opposed to WVU and TCU, you truly are an idiot.

The Big XII got a good deal despite losing those two schools, not because they left.
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No kidding, genious. Guess what? If you think the deal is bigger than it would be with Mizzou and A & M, as opposed to WVU and TCU, you truly are an idiot.

The Big XII got a good deal despite losing those two schools, not because they left.
MU - I'd say it would have been bigger. It's a school that dominates it's state and whatever amount of million of people live in it.
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