NFL Draft Would you support drafting McClain? - Page 4

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-19-2010, 11:50 AM

If the Chiefs pass on Berry and Clausen, do you find that selection defensible if the Chiefs draft McClain at #5, or trade down to #7 to make that pick, perhaps acquiring a third in the process?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-19-2010, 12:17 PM

I would like Spiller, but I just don't know if he's the kind of guy you are going to get 8-10 really productive years out of. I see Eric Berry, and I think you've got a guy who will probably play for 10 years and go to 5-6 Pro Bowls.

If I'm a team that doesn't have a lot of holes and he drops out of the top 10, I'm packaging picks to get him, though.

Can you imagine him in Philly with Maclin, Jackson, McCoy, and Celek?

Titty Meat · 04-19-2010, 12:19 PM

No. McClain would be an upgrade over the current shit they have at ILB but in a deep draft he's not a game changer.

Lono · 04-19-2010, 12:20 PM

I will be not be happy if we draft McClain at all. I think he was covered up and made to look better than he was. He is slow and will have trouble in the NFL.

**BossChief** · 04-19-2010, 12:20 PM

Rolando is to our defense what Clausen is to our offense. A player that has lead the unit for three years and has grown by leaps and bounds in that time and would come in with vast experience in our scheme.

I feel Rolando would help every member of this defense right off the bat and be the leader on the field immediately. DJ would benefit from playing right next to him the most of any defender, someone he can communicate with on the field to help him.

For the people that go to the ChiefsCoalition, here is a link to a very well done breakdown of Rolando vs Spoon.

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forum...howtopic=20144

**Rain Man** · 04-19-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I would like Spiller, but I just don't know if he's the kind of guy you are going to get 8-10 really productive years out of. I see Eric Berry, and I think you've got a guy who will probably play for 10 years and go to 5-6 Pro Bowls.

If I'm a team that doesn't have a lot of holes and he drops out of the top 10, I'm packaging picks to get him, though.

Can you imagine him in Philly with Maclin, Jackson, McCoy, and Celek?

Yeah, that's a good argument about a really high running back. But if you get five years of running back and five years of kick returner, maybe it's like dog years or something and you can add them separately.

The thing I'm liking more and more is that he solves multiple problems with one pick: breather back, returner, and receiver in some packages.

Mr. Laz · 04-19-2010, 12:27 PM

if we are going to reach on position value at #5 then we should just reach on a safety in Eric Berry.

If we trade down we better rape somebody

a 2nd to go down to cleveland at 7
two 1st to down from cleveland to the 49ers

etc

Frosty · 04-19-2010, 01:11 PM

I voted "Yes with an extra 3rd", though it would be really lukewarm support. I would rather have Weatherspoon and I think a 2nd would be in order rather than a third. Didn't Cleveland have to give up a 2nd to Washington when they moved up one spot to take Winslow?

**kysirsoze** · 04-19-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

No. I don't hate McClain, I like some aspects of his game actually, but I don't want to spend a top 10 pick on him.

This exactly.

DumbHillbillies · 04-19-2010, 01:21 PM

Not at #5 and not at the pick that we only get a 3rder for

melbar · 04-19-2010, 01:23 PM

I say yes if we trade down, but 7 is the edge of my comfort. I think he would add a bit of passion to this D that has none besides being a fine player.

Titty Meat · 04-19-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Rolando is to our defense what Clausen is to our offense. A player that has lead the unit for three years and has grown by leaps and bounds in that time and would come in with vast experience in our scheme.

I feel Rolando would help every member of this defense right off the bat and be the leader on the field immediately. DJ would benefit from playing right next to him the most of any defender, someone he can communicate with on the field to help him.

For the people that go to the ChiefsCoalition, here is a link to a very well done breakdown of Rolando vs Spoon.

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forum...howtopic=20144

I disagree. Clausen has the ball every play McClain doesn't. I'd say this team needs some speed and athletes before they need leadership.

KCDC · 04-19-2010, 01:31 PM

I would "support" the pick with a third thrown in. That does not mean it would be my preference.

For example, if we traded down to #7 for a third, we'd know Cleveland was going to take either Berry or Clausen. We are gambling Seattle takes a LT, so that our other choice is there. Say Seattle surprises us and takes our other choice. Now we are screwed, we try to trade down further, we can't, so we take McClain. I think that is okay. We took a chance and lost, but still ended up with a pro bowl caliber ILB and an extra early third round pick that could be used to trade up into the low first round, or get us a decent WR, or safety.

**BossChief** · 04-19-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

I disagree. Clausen has the ball every play McClain doesn't. I'd say this team needs some speed and athletes before they need leadership.

I wasnt comparing the players. I was comparing the situation each would bring to each side of the ball.

Clausen has basically ran our exact offense for the last 3 years, Rolando has ran a very similar defense to ours the last three years.

Mecca · 04-19-2010, 01:36 PM

McClain is frankly the biggest fear out there because he fits all of that right 53 and safe pick bullshit that Pioli spouts.

okcchief · 04-19-2010, 02:21 PM

Dez Bryant is taking more abuse then he deserves IMO. There is no way I would take him at 5 but if he slipped to the second round I would be all over him.

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04-19-2010, 12:17 PM	#46
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I would like Spiller, but I just don't know if he's the kind of guy you are going to get 8-10 really productive years out of. I see Eric Berry, and I think you've got a guy who will probably play for 10 years and go to 5-6 Pro Bowls. If I'm a team that doesn't have a lot of holes and he drops out of the top 10, I'm packaging picks to get him, though. Can you imagine him in Philly with Maclin, Jackson, McCoy, and Celek? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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04-19-2010, 12:19 PM	#47
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $2307558	No. McClain would be an upgrade over the current shit they have at ILB but in a deep draft he's not a game changer.
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04-19-2010, 12:20 PM	#48
Lono Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mo Casino cash: $9933836	I will be not be happy if we draft McClain at all. I think he was covered up and made to look better than he was. He is slow and will have trouble in the NFL.
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04-19-2010, 12:20 PM	#49
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1904088	Rolando is to our defense what Clausen is to our offense. A player that has lead the unit for three years and has grown by leaps and bounds in that time and would come in with vast experience in our scheme. I feel Rolando would help every member of this defense right off the bat and be the leader on the field immediately. DJ would benefit from playing right next to him the most of any defender, someone he can communicate with on the field to help him. For the people that go to the ChiefsCoalition, here is a link to a very well done breakdown of Rolando vs Spoon. http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forum...howtopic=20144 __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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04-19-2010, 12:27 PM	#51
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	if we are going to reach on position value at #5 then we should just reach on a safety in Eric Berry. If we trade down we better rape somebody a 2nd to go down to cleveland at 7 two 1st to down from cleveland to the 49ers etc __________________
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04-19-2010, 01:11 PM	#52
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5708243	I voted "Yes with an extra 3rd", though it would be really lukewarm support. I would rather have Weatherspoon and I think a 2nd would be in order rather than a third. Didn't Cleveland have to give up a 2nd to Washington when they moved up one spot to take Winslow?
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04-19-2010, 01:21 PM	#54
DumbHillbillies He-Haw ! He-Haw ! Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $10004925	Not at #5 and not at the pick that we only get a 3rder for
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04-19-2010, 01:23 PM	#55
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	I say yes if we trade down, but 7 is the edge of my comfort. I think he would add a bit of passion to this D that has none besides being a fine player. __________________
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04-19-2010, 01:31 PM	#57
KCDC Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9736110	I would "support" the pick with a third thrown in. That does not mean it would be my preference. For example, if we traded down to #7 for a third, we'd know Cleveland was going to take either Berry or Clausen. We are gambling Seattle takes a LT, so that our other choice is there. Say Seattle surprises us and takes our other choice. Now we are screwed, we try to trade down further, we can't, so we take McClain. I think that is okay. We took a chance and lost, but still ended up with a pro bowl caliber ILB and an extra early third round pick that could be used to trade up into the low first round, or get us a decent WR, or safety.
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04-19-2010, 01:36 PM	#59
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2647050	McClain is frankly the biggest fear out there because he fits all of that right 53 and safe pick bullshit that Pioli spouts.
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04-19-2010, 02:21 PM	#60
okcchief MVP Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $9849890	Dez Bryant is taking more abuse then he deserves IMO. There is no way I would take him at 5 but if he slipped to the second round I would be all over him.
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