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Old 11-13-2017, 05:15 PM  
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:17 PM   #91
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I can't tell the difference between Trump, Clinton or the "deep state".
Well then, you better leave the political analysis to others.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:18 PM   #92
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:19 PM   #93
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No shit they were talking up Wikileaks, wikileaks was doing damage to the DNC.

So what? That's not "working with" anyone.

I love the Chiefs, they send me emails all the time, I talk them up in public, private, and on social media.

I am not in any way "working with them".

There is no quid pro quo here
No quid pro quo?

Trump gets a heads up on WikiLeaks dirt on the DNC. And seems to use it.

You don't see how that benefits WikiLeaks (and Russia)?
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:23 PM   #94
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No quid pro quo?

Trump gets a heads up on WikiLeaks dirt on the DNC. And seems to use it.

You don't see how that benefits WikiLeaks (and Russia)?
That's not quid pro quo. This is getting ridiculous.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:25 PM   #95
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That's not quid pro quo. This is getting ridiculous.
Yes it is. Something for something. Trump gets dirt. WikiLeaks, and the Russians, have the Trump campaign helping them with their alleged goal.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:28 PM   #96
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Yes it is. Something for something. Trump gets dirt. WikiLeaks, and the Russians, have the Trump campaign helping them with their alleged goal.
Trump hears some information. Trump acts on the information for self benefit. Nothing wrong so far.

The notion that Wikileaks gains some benefit from the act of Trump using the information doesn't change that.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:31 PM   #97
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Yes it is. Something for something. Trump gets dirt. WikiLeaks, and the Russians, have the Trump campaign helping them with their alleged goal.


You have lost your ****ing mind.

Wikileaks nor Russia (though there is still no proof they are the same) has yet to receive anything from any of this. If so please provide evidence.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:39 PM   #98
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Trump hears some information. Trump acts on the information for self benefit. Nothing wrong so far.

The notion that Wikileaks gains some benefit from the act of Trump using the information doesn't change that.
You stated that there was no quid pro quo. It seems clear that WikiLeaks was intent on helping the Trump campaign to defeat Clinton. If it was the intention of Russia to get Trump elected over Clinton with the help of WikiLeaks (as our IC states), do you not see how and why WikiLeaks and Russia got something from Trump getting on stage and saying that he love WikiLeaks?
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:40 PM   #99
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You have lost your ****ing mind.

Wikileaks nor Russia (though there is still no proof they are the same) has yet to receive anything from any of this. If so please provide evidence.
No, I haven't. In fact, it's so amazingly clear, that I'm stunned anyone of reason and moderate intelligence would say such a thing.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:43 PM   #100
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No, I haven't. In fact, it's so amazingly clear, that I'm stunned anyone of reason and moderate intelligence would say such a thing.
You are so full of shit its hilarious. What has Russia gained since Nov 8th?

I cant wait to hear this.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:45 PM   #101
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You are so full of shit its hilarious. What has Russia gained since Nov 8th?

I cant wait to hear this.
Not having Clinton in office. Like I said, obvious.
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You stated that there was no quid pro quo. It seems clear that WikiLeaks was intent on helping the Trump campaign to defeat Clinton. If it was the intention of Russia to get Trump elected over Clinton with the help of WikiLeaks (as our IC states), do you not see how and why WikiLeaks and Russia got something from Trump getting on stage and saying that he love WikiLeaks?
Getting something isn't enough to establish that there was quid quo pro. There has to be an exchange. There's no indication of anything like that here.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:45 PM   #103
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And what if they did that in coordination with the Russians? Still, "Yeah, get 'em!"?
trump supporters literally don’t care.
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Getting something isn't enough to establish that there was quid quo pro. There has to be an exchange. There's no indication of anything like that here.
Clinton not being in office is a pretty good indication, wouldn't you say?
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