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Old 07-20-2017, 07:10 PM  
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****Official 2017 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

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Hamas' Crystal ball says 6-6 w/ two SEC wins (SC @ home and @Vandy).

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Old 11-19-2017, 03:42 PM   #826
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Yup. Long term you won't succeed in the SEC with these kind of recruiting classes. You've beat 2 teams without coaches and a bunch of other rubbish. I'm not trolling and it's nice you don't have to fire your coach this year but long term my opinion of your program hasn't changed.

Missouri succeeded long-term under Pinkel recruiting mostly classes that ranked between 25-45.

They can't recruit in the 60s, but they also aren't going to stay there and only sign 13 players like they currently have committed. They'll move into the 40s on sheer numbers alone.

Odom and his staff have to use this as an opportunity to step up their recruiting, definitely. this gives them something to sell, which he hasn't really had.

But it's worth noting the performance of the freshman and sophomore shows that this staff is good at evaluation. That's critical for a Mizzou coaching staff. Missouri, when it was at its best under Pinkel, was mixing top 25-40 recruiting classes with really good player development and finding under-the-radar players.

Progress on the second half of that is encouraging.


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Old 11-19-2017, 03:52 PM   #827
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I’ve heard a lot of people complain about this. I thought Ware was fine. He was very completely of Mizzou, and he’s got a new Bromance in Albert O. The game was over in the first half, he still had to call another half. What was he supposed to do? Totally ignore Vandy?
Really? That's why he was hoping to God his close play was a fumble when he was clearly down? lol
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:14 PM   #828
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Odom deserves a lot of credit for the turn around. What Mizzou has done is remarkable since they started 1-5. The players could have easily given up on the season and quit on Odom, but they didn't.

I think Odom as a recruiter has a ways to go and you will have a better idea of how good he is once Lock and Beckner leave. Neither of those players were recruited by Odom.

But this stretch, while they've done it, does deserve to be met with some skepticism. They have beaten a team that is moving down from FBS to FCS, a team that brought back a coach from their "glory days" as a program that has not really ever had a lot of success outside of a part of Edsall's first time as HC at UConn at the FBS level(they've been shit since he left and are shit since he's returned), a team that fired its HC before facing Mizzou, and two teams that can win no more than 5 games this season, including a team which might have its first 8 loss season in program history.

While I don't doubt that Mizzou has improved they started 1-5, I do doubt that the improved play will be sustainable long term.
While I get that you want to piss in the punch bowl.....I'm not buying the above. It sounds like the very same explanation that everyone used when MU won the SEC East...."the whole conference is down so your title isn't legit."

BS...you play the schedule you are given each year. Some years are down years for programs and you catch them at the right time, but that doesn't damage the legitimacy of winning. 5 weeks ago no one gave MU a chance of doing anything short of total collapse. Some teams were even counting their game with Mizzou as a "sure win" (see Florida and Tenn for reference) that would make them one step closer to bowl bids.

Well here we are 5 weeks later and not only did MU win 5 in a row, they did it in very convincing fashion...like a winning team is supposed to do. Bowl game scouts look at a couple of things when it comes to picking teams.....who is a "hot team" going down the stretch of this season and which team travels well enough and offers a match up to put butts in the seats.

MU is playing well now and has 2 confirmed bowls looking at them...there are 3 other SEC East teams that will be eligible (GA, SC, and KY) and 2 of those teams are not playing well down the stretch (SC & KY).
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:24 PM   #829
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While I get that you want to piss in the punch bowl.....I'm not buying the above. It sounds like the very same explanation that everyone used when MU won the SEC East...."the whole conference is down so your title isn't legit."

BS...you play the schedule you are given each year. Some years are down years for programs and you catch them at the right time, but that doesn't damage the legitimacy of winning. 5 weeks ago no one gave MU a chance of doing anything short of total collapse. Some teams were even counting their game with Mizzou as a "sure win" (see Florida and Tenn for reference) that would make them one step closer to bowl bids.

Well here we are 5 weeks later and not only did MU win 5 in a row, they did it in very convincing fashion...like a winning team is supposed to do. Bowl game scouts look at a couple of things when it comes to picking teams.....who is a "hot team" going down the stretch of this season and which team travels well enough and offers a match up to put butts in the seats.

MU is playing well now and has 2 confirmed bowls looking at them...there are 3 other SEC East teams that will be eligible (GA, SC, and KY) and 2 of those teams are not playing well down the stretch (SC & KY).
So, you don't believe that I should be skeptical at Mizzou's performance when they have not beaten a single team with a winning record at all this season?
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:26 PM   #830
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So, you don't believe that I should be skeptical at Mizzou's performance when they have not beaten a single team with a winning record at all this season?
You and others need to just accept things for what they are. They have a mediocre record and they are a mediocre team.

Mediocre teams usually beat shit ones.

Seems to mesh up just right.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:29 PM   #831
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You and others need to just accept things for what they are. They have a mediocre record and they are a mediocre team.

Mediocre teams usually beat shit ones.

Seems to mesh up just right.
I accept that they are a mediocre team. I don't accept that they are a good team that can sustain this level of play.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:31 PM   #832
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I accept that they are a mediocre team. I don't accept that they are a good team that can sustain this level of play.
Against bad teams? Yeah they can.

If they come up with a not retarded Defense and can reliably run the ball, I see no reason why they can't be in the mix in a subpar division in 2018.

That's a huge if.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:35 PM   #833
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Against bad teams? Yeah they can.

If they come up with a not retarded Defense and can reliably run the ball, I see no reason why they can't be in the mix in a subpar division in 2018.

That's a huge if.
Do you think Florida will have improved play next year along with Tennessee? Because I do. If Florida makes the right hire and finally addresses their biggest issue since Tebow graduated-QB- there is no reason why they can't compete with UGA every year in the East.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:38 PM   #834
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Looks like Kelly to UF will be a thing.
Interesting to see who Rocky Top gets. Maybe Mullen?
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:11 PM   #835
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Do you think Florida will have improved play next year along with Tennessee? Because I do. If Florida makes the right hire and finally addresses their biggest issue since Tebow graduated-QB- there is no reason why they can't compete with UGA every year in the East.
Both teams are a real mess and we don't know if Tenn will actually make an upgrade at HC.

Florida is hot dog shit at QB and until you've got a QB, you ain't got shit. Chip gonna need more than one year to turn it around.
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Interesting to see who Rocky Top gets. Maybe Mullen?
Mullen would be a great hire for Tennessee. I'm not real positive on Chip at UF.

He better have contacts with a world class elite recruiter.
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:24 PM   #836
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Do you think Florida will have improved play next year along with Tennessee? Because I do. If Florida makes the right hire and finally addresses their biggest issue since Tebow graduated-QB- there is no reason why they can't compete with UGA every year in the East.
Not even Florida fans think things will right themselves by next .....and TN always manages to under-achieve.

And yes you can be skeptical if you apply that same theory to all Division 1 FBS teams....any game they play against a crappier team doesn't count toward their record.

Mizzou is like Bryan Busby said...Mizzou is a mediocre team...but that is a helluva lot better than what we were seeing at the beginning of the year.
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Do you think Florida will have improved play next year along with Tennessee? Because I do. If Florida makes the right hire and finally addresses their biggest issue since Tebow graduated-QB- there is no reason why they can't compete with UGA every year in the East.
Sounds like bad news for Kentucky then if you ask me.
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:47 PM   #839
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Really? That's why he was hoping to God his close play was a fumble when he was clearly down? lol
I guess I just choose not get butthurt over what the broadcast teams says.
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