State your position, for the record. STH the problem? - Page 4

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2008, 10:29 PM

Time to get everyone on record.

There are some folks around here intent on telling STH how to spend their money.

That STH's are to blame for the state of the franchise. It's the fault of STH's that Carl Peterson is still in charge down at 1 Arrowhead Drive.

Don't hold back, tell us how you feel.

Personally, I think no different of someone who chooses not to, or doesn't have the money to be a STH. That's a personal decision, what you do with your money is none of my business, IMO.

Fans are fans, whether they make a financial commitment to the franchise or not. I don't think that it's anyone's place to belittle a group of fans because of the financial commitment or lack thereof towards their team.

This is a no-holds barred thread. Be honest.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Ok, so I support the Chiefs financially, they suck, and to show I want change, I cancel my tickets, they finally turn things around, and then I can't go and support them anymore because I've lost my goddamned tickets.

****ing genius, isn't it?

**Nzoner** · 01-03-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

All this hate on Clark becuse he doesnt have press conferences and answer questions posed by morons who think they know what the boy is thinking? Do you really in your quet moments think this guy is not interested? How ignorant.

Give the guy a chance.

Interested to me is like old Wayne down in Miami,hire a new coach and team absolutely sucks so what does he do,hire Parcells and says build me a winner,new coach gone after 1 season.

Baltimore firing a Super Bowl winning coach because he's ready to win another trophy,now,that's interested.

I could go on but you get the idea.

Deberg_1990 · 01-03-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

All this hate on Clark becuse he doesnt have press conferences and answer questions posed by morons who think they know what the boy is thinking? Do you really in your quet moments think this guy is not interested? How ignorant.

Give the guy a chance.

His inactivity speaks volumes.

Fish · 01-03-2008, 11:49 PM

IMO..... there is still too much allure around the Arrowhead experience to make the common fan give up his ticket in voice of change. There are just too many idiots to take that persons place......

Luzap · 01-03-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

IMO..... there is still too much allure around the Arrowhead experience to make the common fan give up his ticket in voice of change. There are just too many idiots to take that persons place......

Oooooh... Now we have common fans versus real fans ~ and I guess only idiots would buy new season tickets.

Hmmm... Does that mean that real fans have to give up their season tickets? I hope so (I'm on the waiting list for Club Level).

Let's get a petition going for giving up season tickets.

Luz
who's going first???...

Logical · 01-03-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Of course it doesn't. Football didn't have nearly the appeal it does now.

45K STH's and only 25K showing up.

So 45% of the fanbase disappeared over 12 years before the change was made.

if you think 45% of STH are going to give up seats REGARDLESS of their record, you're certifiably nuts.

And I'd still be interested to know why you didn't jump ship earlier.

Truthfully my best friend from HS went to the games with me and it was a yearly ritual for us to get together. If it would have been for winning football I would probably have given them up.

Fish · 01-03-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Luzap

Oooooh... Now we have common fans versus real fans ~ and I guess only idiots would buy new season tickets.

Hmmm... Does that mean that real fans have to give up their season tickets? I hope so (I'm on the waiting list for Club Level).

Let's get a petition going for giving up season tickets.

Luz
who's going first???...

Please give up your season tickets now. I'm excited to receive the opportunity.

After all.. I was absolutely insisting that fans give up their season tickets.....

Dipshit... you're going first.....

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-04-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Absolutely not.

Season Ticket Holders are not to blame. An organization that bases itself on loyalty is the problem.

Without fans, this team doesn't exist.

It should not fall to driving away fans before changes are made. It is completely asenine. Evaluation should occur based on performance not loyalty.

Frankly, I don't think it will make any difference. From what I've seen, Carl is the GM come hell or high water. Carl focuses on money, but I'm not sure Clark does. There are lots of dudes out there that can make money. Dudesthat aren't bashed in the local media and hated by fans. From what I can tell it is all about loyalty.

I'm a n00b. If you think I'm wrong, I probably am.

Pretty ****in smart noob. If you think he's wrong, it's probably you.

ChiefsCountry · 01-04-2008, 02:02 AM

All NFL teams make money. The league is set up to be a money making machine. Basically Lamar and the AFL set it up that way. Chiefs go on the road they get 40% of the ticket sales. Chiefs at home get 60%. They get to keep suites and parking. I just got in the ST game two years ago. My family had them throughout the 80's and gave them up in 89, well we know what happened then. Right now I am young dont have any other expenses, and heck I enjoy going to the games. Yeah they sucked ass this year but I still had fun at games and in the end that is all that matters. I hated the outcome dont get me there.

crazycoffey · 01-04-2008, 02:47 AM

being a season ticket holder gives no power but the power to decide if they want to go watch the game or sell an individual game ticket and maybe make a few bucks.....

crazycoffey · 01-04-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I'm a n00b. If you think I'm wrong, I probably am.

n00b power!!!!

Luzap · 01-04-2008, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Please give up your season tickets now. I'm excited to receive the opportunity.

After all.. I was absolutely insisting that fans give up their season tickets.....

Dipshit... you're going first.....

KC Fish,

Can you say, 'back peddling'?

I always love it when people resort to personal insults ~ it shows lack of character and vocabulary.

You stated that if people gave up their season tickets it would have no impact because idiot fans would just buy them up (as opposed, I guess, to the real fans that gave them up).

I've already paid my money and am on the waiting list for Club Level. I just need more people like you to lambaste the team so they'll drop their season tickets and move me up the list.

Luz
so someone start the petition... please...

DenverChief · 01-04-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

(PWHTTEIAA)

Okay I give

Fish · 01-04-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Luzap

KC Fish,

Can you say, 'back peddling'?

I always love it when people resort to personal insults ~ it shows lack of character and vocabulary.

You stated that if people gave up their season tickets it would have no impact because idiot fans would just buy them up (as opposed, I guess, to the real fans that gave them up).

I've already paid my money and am on the waiting list for Club Level. I just need more people like you to lambaste the team so they'll drop their season tickets and move me up the list.

Luz
so someone start the petition... please...

Back peddling? About what?

You're trying to make connections that I never made. I never said "real fans" had to give up season tickets. Those were your words that you pulled out of your ass and tried to pin on me.

I don't want anyone to give up their tickets. I don't feel that canceling season tickets has the impact that people think. And I believe that this next season is the most important time to fill the house. Now is when the team needs a full Arrowhead. The young inexperienced team needs fan support, not fan protest.

But go on trying to put words in my mouth.... and enjoy Club level, sounds like your kind of crowd.

Luzap · 01-04-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Back peddling? About what?

You're trying to make connections that I never made. I never said "real fans" had to give up season tickets. Those were your words that you pulled out of your ass and tried to pin on me.

I don't want anyone to give up their tickets. I don't feel that canceling season tickets has the impact that people think. And I believe that this next season is the most important time to fill the house. Now is when the team needs a full Arrowhead. The young inexperienced team needs fan support, not fan protest.

But go on trying to put words in my mouth.... and enjoy Club level, sounds like your kind of crowd.

Wow, it sounds like I misunderstood your intent. If so, I'm sorry.

There are so many on the bb that are trying to say really silly things like 'we should give up tickets to protest' that I thought you were one of them.

Luz
this does give me an idea though...

01-03-2008, 10:29 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4971115	State your position, for the record. STH the problem? Time to get everyone on record. There are some folks around here intent on telling STH how to spend their money. That STH's are to blame for the state of the franchise. It's the fault of STH's that Carl Peterson is still in charge down at 1 Arrowhead Drive. Don't hold back, tell us how you feel. Personally, I think no different of someone who chooses not to, or doesn't have the money to be a STH. That's a personal decision, what you do with your money is none of my business, IMO. Fans are fans, whether they make a financial commitment to the franchise or not. I don't think that it's anyone's place to belittle a group of fans because of the financial commitment or lack thereof towards their team. This is a no-holds barred thread. Be honest.
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01-03-2008, 11:49 PM	#49
Fish Ain't no relax! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2368919	IMO..... there is still too much allure around the Arrowhead experience to make the common fan give up his ticket in voice of change. There are just too many idiots to take that persons place...... __________________
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01-04-2008, 02:02 AM	#54
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2408752	All NFL teams make money. The league is set up to be a money making machine. Basically Lamar and the AFL set it up that way. Chiefs go on the road they get 40% of the ticket sales. Chiefs at home get 60%. They get to keep suites and parking. I just got in the ST game two years ago. My family had them throughout the 80's and gave them up in 89, well we know what happened then. Right now I am young dont have any other expenses, and heck I enjoy going to the games. Yeah they sucked ass this year but I still had fun at games and in the end that is all that matters. I hated the outcome dont get me there.
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01-04-2008, 02:47 AM	#55
crazycoffey .......... Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $5217901	being a season ticket holder gives no power but the power to decide if they want to go watch the game or sell an individual game ticket and maybe make a few bucks.....
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