Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 112

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Lex Luthor · 05-13-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

you didn't read very well.

He said the chiefs, in the post you quoted, traded A first round pick.

Not puts this year
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This where reading comprehension can come into play. I sad they gave up "A" 1st round pick, not "their" first round pick. As you pointed out the picks they gave up is "1st round value" and would likely 5-10 teams would have taken that trade off this year to get up into the 1st round. They gave up what amounts to a 1st round pick.

Thanks guys. However, I fully understand the difference between "a first round pick" and "the Chiefs first round pick". The Chiefs didn't have a hypothetical first round pick this year. They had the #1 overall pick.

If you want to continue to misrepresent the trade, then by all means feel free to do so.

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

This fan base amazes me. You trade for a 28 year old QB because you can win now with him. Then the expectations change when quarterback gets here and is treated like a rookie. Unbelievable. We better win some ****ing football games this year if you trade for a veteran quarterback in his prime. No time for rebuilding horseshit with a vet quarterback.

especially one that can walk after next year...
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

Thanks guys. However, I fully understand the difference between "a first round pick" and "the Chiefs first round pick".

If you want to continue to misrepresent the trade, then by all means feel free to do so.

Only one thing was misrepresented here.the chiefs gave the equivalent of a first round pick up for Smith.

Its true even by your math
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 01:01 PM

We couldn't give up the number one and take a player at that spot, which we did. I think most people understand what he means when he says that.

The people that try to twist it are the ones who have nothing else
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Messier · 05-13-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

look around
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I see people saying 8-8 would be improvement, I don't see any, 8-8 is mission accomplished for Reid.

Messier · 05-13-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

This fan base amazes me. You trade for a 28 year old QB because you can win now with him. Then the expectations change when quarterback gets here and is treated like a rookie. Unbelievable. We better win some ****ing football games this year if you trade for a veteran quarterback in his prime. No time for rebuilding horseshit with a vet quarterback.

I took that as the obvious goal when we went Smith. I don't think this is any rebuilding year.

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Like BigCatDaddy said, sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't, whether you agree or not.

I disagree with his assessment.

8-5 and ending up 8-8 is not making a serious push for the playoffs...

Its stepping on your dick in crunch time.

Who has done that before?

What was it? 3-13 on third down conversions?
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Rasputin · 05-13-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

And falling short of a goal is actually a failure
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Pffft..

Just wait for the excuses if we go 6-10 or 7-9.

**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I see people saying 8-8 would be improvement, I don't see any, 8-8 is mission accomplished for Reid.

I never said that.
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**SAUTO** · 05-13-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Pffft..

Just wait for the excuses if we go 6-10 or 7-9.

They are already being typed
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RunKC · 05-13-2013, 01:44 PM

I think we're gonna be 9-7, but w our schedule, I wouldn't be surprised if we made the playoffs.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-13-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I think we're gonna be 9-7, but w our schedule, I wouldn't be surprised if we made the playoffs.

You wouldn't?

I would.....considering the odds are very very slim...

**007** · 05-13-2013, 01:49 PM

patteeu · 05-13-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

After a non winning "learning year"?

What is a non winning learning year going to tell us?
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It's going to tell Andy Reid whether he thinks Alex Smith is his multi-year answer or whether he needs to look around for an alternative. The final record isn't the measure of merit for that determination.

patteeu · 05-13-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

This fan base amazes me. You trade for a 28 year old QB because you can win now with him. Then the expectations change when quarterback gets here and is treated like a rookie. Unbelievable. We better win some ****ing football games this year if you trade for a veteran quarterback in his prime. No time for rebuilding horseshit with a vet quarterback.

We've got an entire team that knows how to lose but may not know how to win yet. It's not like this team was a plug and play QB away last year. There's a wide range of possible outcomes for this coming season that have little or nothing to do with how well Alex Smith plays.

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