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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:48 PM   #811
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Steve Young and many others started out in very rough situations. Once the situations improved, hey, then you ended up with some really good QB play. Go figure.
The situation improved massively for Smith under Harbaugh in San Francisco and, lo and behold, he was still a mediocre game manager. Go figure.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:51 PM   #812
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The situation improved massively for Smith under Harbaugh in San Francisco and, lo and behold, he was still a mediocre game manager. Go figure.
He was what he was asked to be... in a system that was cautious by nature and leaned on the clear strengths of defense and STs while the entire offense had to play catch-up.

... and as that efficient game manager, he helped produce lots of wins and was a top 10 quarterback in the league for passer rating.


" oh, buts he no had big numberz in the games!!! he is teh suxxorz!"

My God, some people are really stupid and shallow.
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:54 PM   #813
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He was what he was asked to be... in a system that was cautious by nature and leaned on the clear strengths of defense and STs while the entire offense had to play catch-up.

... and as that efficient game manager, he helped produce lots of wins and was a top 10 quarterback in the league for passer rating.


" oh, buts he no had big numberz in the games!!! he is teh suxxorz!"

My God, some people are really stupid and shallow.
Don't you know its not the end results that count.

You just have to flashy, look at Stafford and Rivers. Everyone loves them and they are terrible, just horrid.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:01 PM   #814
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What are his stats when throwing the ball 20 X a game?

What is the difference in W-L for team that throws Under 20 over and under 35 and over?
Hey dumbass - Andy Reid teams throw the ball 35 times a game, that is why the 35 stat is important.
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He was what he was asked to be... in a system that was cautious by nature
Protip: if a coach has to be "cautious" (i.e. overconservative) with his system for you, you're not a championship-caliber quarterback.

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... and as that efficient game manager, he helped produce lots of wins
Only if all conditions were perfect, i.e., the other team didn't score at least 24 points, he didn't have to throw at least 30 passes, etc. Then he could just ride the defense and running game to wins.

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You just have to flashy, look at Stafford and Rivers. Everyone loves them and they are terrible, just horrid.
Since when does everybody love Rivers? He's pretty much been written off by the media as what he is: a quarterback in decline.

And he's not really that "flashy" anymore. In fact, he's turned into the type of pussified quarterback people like you love: a checkdown machine whose yards per attempt is on a sharp decline and who can't make throws under pressure.
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Hey dumbass - Andy Reid teams throw the ball 35 times a game, that is why the 35 stat is important.
LOL, what was it too hard of a question.

Doesn't agree with your stats. Sorry I will quit asking hard questions.
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I love logic too, but your post doesn't seem to have any.

The more Alex Smith throws, the worse he is. Wins, completion %, TD %, INT %, you name it.
Kind of like how if he threw the ball 100x in a game eh would complete 0% of his passes

Hey, that's what the statistics "say."

In the 49ers ultraconservative O, if Alex SMith was throwing 35X in a game it was because they were playing from behind and the defense was keying in on the pass almost exclusively.
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Protip: if a coach has to be "cautious" (i.e. overconservative) with his system for you, you're not a championship-caliber quarterback.
A year one system where many of the non-QBs don't fully know what they are doing? and the OC is creating an offense on the fly? And a defense well known to have an already solid defense and STs? This team wants to be cautious as they evolve.. and you feel like this is a QB issue? Just stupid.
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Hey dumbass - Andy Reid teams throw the ball 35 times a game, that is why the 35 stat is important.
To be important, or even relevant, it would have to be part of an offense that regularly passes 35 plus times a game. Looking at aberrations, which were not 35 plus passing planned games, isn't going to tell you much.
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A year one system where many of the non-QBs don't fully know what they are doing? and the OC is creating an offense on the fly? And a defense well known to have an already solid defense and STs? This team wants to be cautious as they evolve.. and you feel like this is a QB issue? Just stupid.
Apparently Harbaugh felt it was a QB issue, since he tried to replace Smith in free agency, then finally replaced him with Kaepernick, who - get this - actually could run Harbaugh's offense and STILL make deep throws! Go figure!
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Apparently Harbaugh felt it was a QB issue, since he tried to replace Smith in free agency, then finally replaced him with Kaepernick, who - get this - actually could run Harbaugh's offense and STILL make deep throws! Go figure!
Harbaugh perceives Kaepernick as having a more dynamic skillset. He happens to be correct on that. Alex was incredibly efficient in doing what was needed and asked of him. Bad luck for him was.. he was replaced by that more dynamic player... It happens. Even Joe Montana... who is vastly more accomplished than Alex... was replaced by Steve Young. That doesn't mean that Joe was teh suxxorz, obviously. It just meant that Young could do some things that Montana couldn't.. and it was time to move on.
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Harbaugh perceives Kaepernick as having a more dynamic skillset. He happens to be correct on that. Alex was incredibly efficient in doing what was needed and asked of him. Bad luck for him was.. he was replaced by that more dynamic player... It happens. Even Joe Montana... who is vastly more accomplished than Alex... was replaced by Steve Young. That doesn't mean that Joe was teh suxxorz, obviously. It just meant that Young could do some things that Montana couldn't.. and it was time to move on.
That was ultimately Joe's choice. At the end of the day the Niners offered him the starting position. He later agreed to the trade to the Chiefs. (I suppose he realized Steve would still be breathing down his neck, an injury and the controversy would start all over again, etc.)
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Apparently Harbaugh felt it was a QB issue, since he tried to replace Smith in free agency, then finally replaced him with Kaepernick, who - get this - actually could run Harbaugh's offense and STILL make deep throws! Go figure!
Peyton Manning is on the market and he looked into snagging him. Not exactly out shopping for a replacement.
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Peyton Manning is on the market and he looked into snagging him. Not exactly out shopping for a replacement.
They also tried to get Hasselbeck.
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