Electronics Car Stereo / Speaker Install

Dayze · 03:03 PM

So, I’ve decided to upgrade my stock system. About a month or so ago, my radio locked up due to replacing the battery and the dealer wants $150 to pull it out and look at the info on the back to reset it.
**** that.

Based on principle of that being a reeruned idea/requirement, and my stubbornness, I figured “**** it..I might as well spend a few bucks and get a better system”.

Obviously, I’m getting a new head-unit. Nothing major, probably in the $150-200 range (double din). However, I’m also going to replace the 4 x 6.5” speakers as well. Over the last week or so, I ‘ve been kicking around the idea of a single 8” sub in the back. I saw a pretty cool stealth box that would fit under my carpet/mat in the spare tire well. I have a Rabbit / hatchback.

Overall – how much of a PITA would it be for a novice to install this crap on their own? I bought all the crap at Best Buy a week ago and paid for installation etc, only to arrive and find out that my car (according to them) required extra work to get everything in - $180 worth of ‘extra’ after I had paid $100 for install. So I told them to stick it in their collective asses and give me my money back. Which they did……after the guy had already begun installing it. Then gave me some shit about a restocking fee and the product already being opened. Long story short, I got it all back.

Should I take it to a smaller, more customer oriented shop and just pay to have the shit installed? Or is that going to cost an arm and a leg? Budget wise, I’m not looking to spend a ton; and I’m not worried about blowing out windows either. I just want something with a great sound in the car, with a nice thump on the low end when listening to rock etc.

Would a high quality set of 6.5”s provide enough ‘oomph’ for the lows? My stock speakers suck ass in this regard. Should I just stick with the 4 speakers and not screw with the sub?. Is a sub something I could easily add at a later time?

Here is what the stealth box looks like....but it's ****ing expensive.
http://www.uberstealthaudio.com/Prod...#!photogallery

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:05 PM

Installing HU and speakers is easy. The hardest part is disassembling your car, though you should be able to find instructions on the net. Running wires for the sub is a lot trickier. Is the sub powered or do you have to install an extra amp?

Dayze · 09-12-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Installing HU and speakers is easy. The hardest part is disassembling your car, though you should be able to find instructions on the net. Running wires for the sub is a lot trickier. Is the sub powered or do you have to install an extra amp?

no idea. I haven't bought a sub yet. not sure what 'loaded' is.

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

no idea. I haven't bought a sub yet. not sure what 'loaded' is.

Loaded? Is that in the description of the stealth sub?

Dayze · 09-12-2013, 03:16 PM

shit...I meant to say "Powered". no idea WTF I got 'loaded' from

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

shit...I meant to say "Powered". no idea WTF I got 'loaded' from

Some sub boxes have a built-in amp while others contain just a speaker and you have to have an external amp to drive it.

Dayze · 09-12-2013, 03:24 PM

Hmm. Good to know.
from what I've read, it would be external.
I'm in a pickle because there's really nowhere else to put the sucker. "IF" I go that route. I may just do the receiver and 4 x 6.5"s to see how they sound. I suppose I could always install a sub at a later date with minimal pain.

KC native · 09-12-2013, 03:26 PM

If you're a novice at removing interior panels, buy a cheap set of panel remover tools (the plastic ones on Amazon will work if you don't plan on using them repeatedly). Buy some extra clips too. You'll probably snap a few.

Other than that should be a piece of cake.

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Hmm. Good to know.
from what I've read, it would be external.
I'm in a pickle because there's really nowhere else to put the sucker. "IF" I go that route. I may just do the receiver and 4 x 6.5"s to see how they sound. I suppose I could always install a sub at a later date with minimal pain.

Sounds good. I recently replaced the HU in my wife's CR-V along with all four 6.5" speakers. Despite doing it on the cheap, it has surprising decent sound. It isn't going to thump but there is enough low end to sound good. I did soundproof the doors when I put the speakers in, which probably helped.

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

If you're a novice at removing interior panels, buy a cheap set of panel remover tools (the plastic ones on Amazon will work if you don't plan on using them repeatedly).

Harbor Freight has a decent set too if you need one on the quick.

KC native · 09-12-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Harbor Freight has a decent set too if you need one on the quick.

That would work too. I don't need them as I've broken enough clips to know how to pull panels without killing clips now.

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:36 PM

Also, be sure to get a wiring harness adapter when you install the HU (they make adapters for the speakers, too). That way you can wire the adapter to the HU and then just plug the whole thing into the stock harness.

For wiring, a lot of people recommend soldering the wires and then covering them with shrinktube. That's nice but it's a giant pain in the ass and if you aren't used to soldering, you can easily get cold solder joints. When I installed professionally, we used "snowcone" crimp connectors.

http://www.amazon.com/Install-CCL161..._bxgy_hi_img_y

Just make sure you have crimpers with the little tit in them and not the ones that just squish the connector.

http://www.amazon.com/GB-GS-388-8-In...ywords=crimper

We never had any fail.

Dayze · 09-12-2013, 03:42 PM

man, I'm bumping this thread when I get the shit. lol
thanks dude.

Frosty · 09-12-2013, 03:45 PM

If you buy your stuff from Crutchfield, you'll get all of the adapters and harnesses you need, along with guides showing how to open up the dash and doors (you need your own tools though). It's a nice package.

The downside is that it is usually more expensive than buying the stuff elsewhere. For a novice installer, though, the peace of mind can be valuable.

Dayze · 09-12-2013, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty

If you buy your stuff from Crutchfield, you'll get all of the adapters and harnesses you need, along with guides showing how to open up the dash and doors (you need your own tools though). It's a nice package.

The downside is that it is usually more expensive than buying the stuff elsewhere. For a novice installer, though, the peace of mind can be valuable.

Crutchfield...

. I didn't even know about that.

09-12-2013, 02:54 PM
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5259358	Car Stereo / Speaker Install So, I’ve decided to upgrade my stock system. About a month or so ago, my radio locked up due to replacing the battery and the dealer wants $150 to pull it out and look at the info on the back to reset it. ** that. Based on principle of that being a reeruned idea/requirement, and my stubbornness, I figured “ it..I might as well spend a few bucks and get a better system”. Obviously, I’m getting a new head-unit. Nothing major, probably in the $150-200 range (double din). However, I’m also going to replace the 4 x 6.5” speakers as well. Over the last week or so, I ‘ve been kicking around the idea of a single 8” sub in the back. I saw a pretty cool stealth box that would fit under my carpet/mat in the spare tire well. I have a Rabbit / hatchback. Overall – how much of a PITA would it be for a novice to install this crap on their own? I bought all the crap at Best Buy a week ago and paid for installation etc, only to arrive and find out that my car (according to them) required extra work to get everything in - $180 worth of ‘extra’ after I had paid $100 for install. So I told them to stick it in their collective asses and give me my money back. Which they did……after the guy had already begun installing it. Then gave me some shit about a restocking fee and the product already being opened. Long story short, I got it all back. Should I take it to a smaller, more customer oriented shop and just pay to have the shit installed? Or is that going to cost an arm and a leg? Budget wise, I’m not looking to spend a ton; and I’m not worried about blowing out windows either. I just want something with a great sound in the car, with a nice thump on the low end when listening to rock etc. Would a high quality set of 6.5”s provide enough ‘oomph’ for the lows? My stock speakers suck ass in this regard. Should I just stick with the 4 speakers and not screw with the sub?. Is a sub something I could easily add at a later time? Here is what the stealth box looks like....but it's *ing expensive. http://www.uberstealthaudio.com/Prod...#!photogallery Last edited by Dayze; 09-12-2013 at 03:03 PM..*
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09-12-2013, 03:05 PM	#2
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5738243	Installing HU and speakers is easy. The hardest part is disassembling your car, though you should be able to find instructions on the net. Running wires for the sub is a lot trickier. Is the sub powered or do you have to install an extra amp?
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09-12-2013, 03:16 PM	#5
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5259358	shit...I meant to say "Powered". no idea WTF I got 'loaded' from __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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09-12-2013, 03:24 PM	#7
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5259358	Hmm. Good to know. from what I've read, it would be external. I'm in a pickle because there's really nowhere else to put the sucker. "IF" I go that route. I may just do the receiver and 4 x 6.5"s to see how they sound. I suppose I could always install a sub at a later date with minimal pain. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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09-12-2013, 03:26 PM	#8
KC native Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Casino cash: $10049239	If you're a novice at removing interior panels, buy a cheap set of panel remover tools (the plastic ones on Amazon will work if you don't plan on using them repeatedly). Buy some extra clips too. You'll probably snap a few. Other than that should be a piece of cake.
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09-12-2013, 03:36 PM	#12
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5738243	Also, be sure to get a wiring harness adapter when you install the HU (they make adapters for the speakers, too). That way you can wire the adapter to the HU and then just plug the whole thing into the stock harness. For wiring, a lot of people recommend soldering the wires and then covering them with shrinktube. That's nice but it's a giant pain in the ass and if you aren't used to soldering, you can easily get cold solder joints. When I installed professionally, we used "snowcone" crimp connectors. http://www.amazon.com/Install-CCL161..._bxgy_hi_img_y Just make sure you have crimpers with the little tit in them and not the ones that just squish the connector. http://www.amazon.com/GB-GS-388-8-In...ywords=crimper We never had any fail.
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09-12-2013, 03:42 PM	#13
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5259358	man, I'm bumping this thread when I get the shit. lol thanks dude. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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09-12-2013, 03:45 PM	#14
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5738243	If you buy your stuff from Crutchfield, you'll get all of the adapters and harnesses you need, along with guides showing how to open up the dash and doors (you need your own tools though). It's a nice package. The downside is that it is usually more expensive than buying the stuff elsewhere. For a novice installer, though, the peace of mind can be valuable.
Posts: 14,495