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Whitlock Triples down on Gun Control

Whitlock Vs. Bill O Reilly.....Whoever wins....we lose.



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It wasn’t that long ago, in the aftermath of Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor’s tragic death in 2007, that I was the toast of right-wing America. Before there were any arrests, before we knew the gruesome circumstances that precipitated his murder, I analogized Taylor’s assailants to the Black KKK in a column for FOXSports.com

I’m fond of provocative analogies. That affinity bit me in the rear end Monday morning. In the aftermath of Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher’s murder-suicide, during an interview with Roland Martin on the popular Tom Joyner morning radio show, I groggily and inarticulately popped off a provocative analogy that I had yet to explain in writing.

I analogized the National Rifle Association to the KKK. Big mistake. My views on the NRA and distaste for the organization cannot be explained at 4:30 a.m. (I live in LA) during a fast-paced interview on a morning radio show. My column is the foundation for all of my most provocative opinions. My podcast is my secondary foundation for those opinions. I prefer to control my message and not hand fragments of my thoughts over to others to exploit, recast and define. I like to be interviewed about what I wrote in my column and what I said during my podcast.

Through no fault of Roland Martin or Tom Joyner, I went off message early Monday morning and spewed a half-baked thought. And by doing so, I gave the right-wing entertainment media the out it needed to further bastardize the rather harmless column I wrote Saturday night about Belcher’s murder-suicide.

The column primarily focused on my belief that it was inappropriate for the Chiefs to play a game 28 hours after Belcher murdered his live-in girlfriend and then drove to the Chiefs practice facility and killed himself in front of the general manager, head coach and defensive coordinator. Kansas City’s victory over the Carolina Panthers, nor the KC players’ insistence on wanting to play, in no way invalidates my contention that the NFL was wrong for playing the game as scheduled.

The column whined that football is our God and not even murder-suicide will slow us from worshipping at its altar. The still-in-shock and desensitized-to-violence players and coaches turned Belcher’s locker into a game-day shrine. Jovan Belcher is a murderer. His suicide did not transform him into a fallen hero.



There was one primary reason my Saturday-night column focused on whether the game should be played. I didn’t know what else to write. At the time, there was little concrete information about the tragedy. I wrapped up my column with an ancillary point articulating my belief that America’s gun culture is out of control, dangerous and a threat to our liberty.

I further argued that our Second Amendment is outdated. The right to bear arms no longer protects us from a government armed with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knickknacks James Madison and Co. couldn’t envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791.

Bob Costas quoted and paraphrased my ancillary point during a courageous halftime commentary on NBC’s “Sunday Night Football.” He infuriated the right-wing entertainment media and gave Bill O’Reilly and his disciples the opening to pretend the Second Amendment is under some sort of serious attack. It is not. We just finished a hotly-contested election cycle, and not one political candidate that I can think of uttered a single meaningful word about gun violence, gun control, gun culture and the outdatedness of the justification for the Second Amendment.

This issue is so dead in this country that the flag-waving, right-wing entertainment media have to drag up a non-political, non-voting sports columnist and a talented sports broadcaster as their straw men to justify their phony outrage. I don’t think I’ll be called before the Senate to speak on any toothless gun-control legislation the NRA lobby lets slip through a crack.

But it appears I was summoned to testify before Speaker of The Big House Bill O’Reilly, the FOX News entertainer. O’Reilly is fixated on the mistake I made on the Tom Joyner show. O’Reilly spent part of his Tuesday show telling his viewers that I was afraid to come on “The Factor” and discuss my views on the NRA, the Second Amendment and gun culture.

I’m a grown-ass man and it’s 2012. I don’t have to shuffle off to the Big House when summoned. O’Reilly is not Boehner, Pelosi or Obama. He’s a TV entertainer who has spent the weeks after the election crying about the end of “white establishment” America, the end of the days when an upstanding white man felt entitled to summon whomever he wanted whenever he wanted to the Big House to dance

I don’t dance.

Every cable TV network requested that I consent to an interview this week. I declined all invitations. Only Speaker of the Big House O’Reilly attacked me for exercising my constitutional right of freedom. It’s been a tough week for me personally, and I chose to control my message by using my platforms — column and podcast.

Beginning with my defense of Don Imus during the Rutgers controversy, I’ve appeared on O’Reilly’s program several times. You typically sacrifice two hours of time for an eight-minute segment that accomplishes very little. It’s not the deep end of the pool. There’s no room for someone like me to splash around.

If O’Reilly wants to talk, he’s more than welcome at my little house. I’d love to tape a podcast with him discussing the Second Amendment, gun culture and his fears about the end of white establishment America.

For now, I’m going to stick to writing my sports column. And when given a chance to broaden sports issues into social issues I will take that opportunity. That’s what I do.

And I do it without giving much thought to which politically partisan group I’m pissing off. When Taylor was senselessly murdered, I lambasted the primarily black "gangsta" culture that preys on black people the way the KKK once did.

I’m not paid to state the obvious. I’m paid to provoke thought, be compelling and explore the bigger picture. It doesn’t require much intellectual heft to point out Belcher is responsible for his reprehensible tragedy.

Recognizing his culpability for his girlfriend’s murder and moving on to make a deeper, more nuanced point isn’t irresponsible or an effort to excuse Belcher’s gross criminality. It’s a bid to probe alternative remedies that might lessen the probability of another Belcher tragedy. History has taught us that human beings are flawed, volatile, irresponsible and violent. What can we do to safely manage these human characteristics beyond the obvious?

I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They don’t protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.

We can’t see this or even have a discussion about it because the propaganda-political-lobby-machine, the NRA, has hoodwinked America into believing handguns make us safer. The NRA, like the KKK, has brainwashed us through fear and division.

I don’t believe individual NRA members and/or gun owners — and I’m quite aware the NRA has members of every race — are racist. I do believe the NRA capitalizes on and promotes racial fears and ignorance that swings all directions. People of every race are buying guns to “protect” themselves from their own race or other races. It’s an unhealthy arms race. The NRA is powering it by promoting unnecessary and harmful stand-your-ground laws. The message isn’t subtle: Strap up, the other guy is out to get you.

The NRA traffics in fear, division and the seductive power of guns — the same tools used by the KKK. Other than money, I don’t think the NRA has a dog in the race. It just wants all sides armed to the hilt and convinced the other side is ready to shoot. That’s the recipe that left a 17-year-old Jacksonville kid dead over loud music blaring from a car.

It’s a dangerous recipe that I believe is fracturing our imperfect union. Nations as big and powerful as ours die from internal — not external — wounds. We’ve been duped into believing handguns are our salvation, an expression of our American patriotism. They’re just the opposite. Their rising popularity pushes us closer and closer to the brink, closer to a war inspired by racial divisions.

To much fanfare and derision, I’ve written provocatively about black people’s adoption of KKK-like qualities. I’ve bitched rather loudly and passionately about gangsta, hip-hop culture. I don’t run my opinions or analogies through a political point of view before airing them. I’m not part of the right- or left-wing entertainment media. I’m just a sports writer spouting my opinions trying to get you to look at the world differently.

If you read me long enough, it’s inevitable I’m going write something you passionately disagree with. But the opinions expressed in this column don’t come from a dishonest or partisan place.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:30 PM   #46
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Maybe SOC should refund his money.

If those assholes are going to shoot each other, that's on them, they will find the guns.

Don't take my ****ing guns away just because you don't like them, stupid ****ers.
Maybe SOC should fly a banner in LA that says “Jason Whitlock is unarmed” then take bets on how often he gets mugged in a month.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:32 PM   #47
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I won't lie...watching the fpsrussia video got me interested in the 1216 but when I found out it's a roller delayed semi-auto shotgun(i.e. not gas or inertia) that sealed the deal. I've simply never heard of any roller delayed shotguns before. Somehow I think the ammo may go a lot faster than expected!

Am I the only one that thought about rock salt and Jason's ass when I saw this?
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:32 PM   #48
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Sad that Jason is more willing to address what he calls a dead issue than to address the issue of domestic violence in the black community. Or any community. Or in the professinal sports community

Jason is a spotlight seeker like a moth to a flame. Demoted from what is arguesbly one of the best sports newspapers in the country to doing podcasts and blogong for foxsports.com

Man up JWhit. Grow a set of balls and lets see you do a take on a real issue. I wont stay up looking for it. Costas at least tried to defend his stupid take. Stay in the basement doing blogs and eating wings. Big time is way to big for you.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:47 PM   #49
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Maybe I am crazy but at least once a week driving at night...I see something that makes me put the .45 on the passenger seat from it's hiding spot. Either crazy drivers, poeople walking up behind my car to cross the street.

If you know my story I have a number of relatives shot and killed. Now that might happen to me too, but not for a lack of shooting back.

It's a dangerous world.

We are not that much more evolved than people living 2000 years ago.

We have just perfected a few modern living benefits.

Shut of the water and the electricity or slow or stop the resources and food and see what happens

People will go crazy

They will hurt people and steal

Once the survival instinct kicks in

All bets are off

Prison rules

It's kinda ****ed up.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:52 PM   #50
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The coolest part about that is the libtards won't have any guns.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:06 PM   #51
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This basically translates as "There's no way I can back up my Anti-American bullshit in a debate against an intelligent person, so I'm going to hide behind my computer like a bitch."

Way to sack up, Mariotti. Did you get a free box of tampons with that article?

And I like the part where he says that the people he likens to klansman aren't really racist, though. Gee, that's nice.
This. His opinion would have been dismantled in front of the world. He is like a kid talking smack until someone calls him out. When the time comes he doesn't show up behind the school for a fight because he knows he will be publically embarrased.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:08 PM   #52
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I have grown tired of this whole argument. **** it, come take my guns. Make sure to bring body bags too because I am not going to give them up easy.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:27 PM   #53
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Recognizing his culpability for his girlfriend’s murder and moving on to make a deeper, more nuanced point isn’t irresponsible or an effort to excuse Belcher’s gross criminality. It’s a bid to probe alternative remedies that might lessen the probability of another Belcher tragedy. History has taught us that human beings are flawed, volatile, irresponsible and violent. What can we do to safely manage these human characteristics beyond the obvious?

I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They don’t protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.
He's right here. The gun culture in this country has become so prevalent that it isn't even really possible to have a legitimate debate about the issue any longer. No politician who actually wants to win anything would ever even suggest any kind of gun control.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:51 PM   #54
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This. His opinion would have been dismantled in front of the world. He is like a kid talking smack until someone calls him out. When the time comes he doesn't show up behind the school for a fight because he knows he will be publically embarrased.
Did you miss the part where he said he was wrong to say that? He knows he would have been crucified. He's defended his views on O Reilly before.

Going on there serves no purpose anyways. I'm a conservative and I think he's a clown show.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:37 PM   #55
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Did you miss the part where he said he was wrong to say that? He knows he would have been crucified. He's defended his views on O Reilly before.

Going on there serves no purpose anyways. I'm a conservative and I think he's a clown show.
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I agree with that - O'Reilly and Maher are flip-sides of the same douchy coin. However, he said he declined ALL interviews. All of them. Typical Mariotti-ish crap - spout off bullshit in a column or on the internet, and then hide when it comes back to bite you.

Notice he hasn't posted here since all this crap happened, either.
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He's right here. The gun culture in this country has become so prevalent that it isn't even really possible to have a legitimate debate about the issue any longer. No politician who actually wants to win anything would ever even suggest any kind of gun control.
There has been a legitimate debate. Gun control lost.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:48 PM   #57
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He's right here. The gun culture in this country has become so prevalent that it isn't even really possible to have a legitimate debate about the issue any longer. No politician who actually wants to win anything would ever even suggest any kind of gun control.
Good. Let's move on...
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He's right here. The gun culture in this country has become so prevalent that it isn't even really possible to have a legitimate debate about the issue any longer. No politician who actually wants to win anything would ever even suggest any kind of gun control.
You obviously don't live in the Peoples Republik of Illinois. Or New York. Or Kalifornia.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:56 PM   #59
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Whitlock hasn't been this worked up since someone hid his salt shaker. Stick to sports JWhit.
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But see here's the point...I totally agree with this. I own guns, I'm not particularly a fan of the self defense aspects and I'll probably never be interested in hunting. I'm interesting in firearms like I am in cars, I target shoot them and experiment with novel new mechanical technologies. They are my hobby, my toys, and how I express myself.
I agree. I like them too... just saying, if they did not exist I truely believe that less people would be dead today. Belcher made a spur of the moment stupid decision. Had he not owned a gun, I'm guessing he would've beat her to a pulp, but she would've lived.

I do believe guns don't kill people; people do.... but also Whitlock makes some valid points.


ps: I was going to buy this for the wife.

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