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Old 08-25-2007, 05:35 PM  
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Jeezuz folks get some perspective

It isn't the end of the world that an unproven, inexperience QB didn't win the starting job right now. Earlier today I looked up at the sky and it is definately still up there. Hasn't fallen a bit.

Brodie isn't ready. It's that simple. He doesn't even have his mechanics down. He rushes things. He makes bad descisons. And he's got his whole career ahead of him. Don't you think maybe this will be a bit of a wake up call to him to get his shit together? Don't you think it will make him work even harder to be the guy we all hope he can be when the time comes? Isn't it better to let a guy who obviously isn't ready, sit back, get some perspective himself and come in once the O-line is (hopefully) a little more stable and LJ has found his stride?

Huard isn't great but he was solid last year and anyone who disputes that isn't looking at the big picture. Yes he had some issues. He was also the second rated passer in the NFL and lead us to the playoffs. It certainly wasn't his fault we didn't win once we were there. We know he can handle being the starter. Croyle.... not so much.

Excuse Herm and Carl and the whole organization for trying to put the best players on the field to start a season and maybe... just maybe trying to win a game or two. Many of us have little hope for a good season... no matter who plays QB. I'm glad the people who run the team don't have that same degree of low or no expectations. I mean how dare they try to compete with players who've proven they can.

Brodie will get his chance...probably even this year. I for one thank Herm and Carl for not handing the team over to a guy who may just get his ass and his confidence broken in two right from the start. Brodie will be a better QB later... when he's ready... for not having to try to sail a potentially sinkng ship now.

And who knows... we may not even be that bad.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:44 AM   #31
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....you can't earn a starting gig in practice.
Then he should have earned it in the games.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:54 AM   #32
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We could be developing a young QB. He's not ready, so let's GET HIM ready.

Nah, that's sucks. Let's play the 34-year old and try to limp into the playoffs.

AGAIN.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:55 AM   #33
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but not if he's not ready to be an NFL player and we have another guy who's done it before.
Done WHAT before?
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:03 AM   #34
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If they don't then they should not be playing. You don't quit before the season starts or you're not worthy of calling yourself a pro.
I think that these guys believe that they can be difference makers, and that they can help lead their team to wins.

But I also believe that they know that there are a lot of flaws with this team, starting at QB.

So rather than believeing in their QB, and their teammates, they have to make it happen.

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Here's a better question. Do you guys think Tony G. is in it just for the money or does he also want to win a championship? I was surprised when he re-signed so quickly. I think there is something positive going on at Arrowhead or he wouldn't of done it. I guess we'll see.
I think he's in it for both, and he believes in the direction that Herman ****ing Edwards appeared to taking this team.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:04 AM   #35
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Done WHAT before?
Started a couple of games?

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Old 08-26-2007, 09:06 AM   #36
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We could be developing a young QB. He's not ready, so let's GET HIM ready.

Nah, that's sucks. Let's play the 34-year old and try to limp into the playoffs.

AGAIN.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:05 AM   #37
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I don't think croyle will ever be ready. Most qb's show signs of being good. He just has this look when he is coming off the field like steve urcle

"DID I DO THAT?"
You probably think Printers will be a good NFL QB....
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:08 AM   #38
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:15 PM   #39
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We could be developing a young QB. He's not ready, so let's GET HIM ready.

Nah, that's sucks. Let's play the 34-year old and try to limp into the playoffs.

AGAIN.
There are a lot of things that Croyle can do in practice to make him more prepared to start. He needs to work on his mechanics, and stop throwing off his back leg. That is something he needs to learn in practice before he steps on the field. You don't learn good mechanics in a game with defenders in your face. You learn them in practice, and practice them over and over until it becomes second nature. THEN you are ready to take the field. Like in anything else you have to learn the fundamentals before taking the next step. You can't learn how to run until you learn how to walk.

I think this will be good for Croyle, and better for the Chiefs in the long run. If you put Croyle in a situation like that, with that OL, then he is never going to learn to learn proper mechanics because he will be running for his life all the time.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:21 PM   #40
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You probably think Printers will be a good NFL QB....
Atleast Printers has some physical skills. I can't point to one thing other than the arm that brodie has. Can't escape the pocket, has to find lanes to throw because he is so short, and is injury prone.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:21 PM   #41
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There are a lot of things that Croyle can do in practice to make him more prepared to start. He needs to work on his mechanics, and stop throwing off his back leg. That is something he needs to learn in practice before he steps on the field. You don't learn good mechanics in a game with defenders in your face. You learn them in practice, and practice them over and over until it becomes second nature. THEN you are ready to take the field. Like in anything else you have to learn the fundamentals before taking the next step. You can't learn how to run until you learn how to walk.

I think this will be good for Croyle, and better for the Chiefs in the long run. If you put Croyle in a situation like that, with that OL, then he is never going to learn to learn proper mechanics because he will be running for his life all the time.
Damon Huard has been "practicing" his entire career as a backup.

Yet, he STILL throws off his back foot ALL THE TIME.

Ask any current or former QB:

There is NO SUBSTITUTE for GAME EXPERIENCE.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:22 PM   #42
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Done WHAT before?
Led a team to the post season.

Since when are you this dumb?
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:25 PM   #43
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I think some people must have croyle as a fantasy sleeper for a large amount of money. There is no other explanation for this kind of freakout. Especially because Croyle will get his second chance eventually if not then i wish him well on his new team
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Damon Huard has been "practicing" his entire career as a backup.

Yet, he STILL throws off his back foot ALL THE TIME.

Ask any current or former QB:

There is NO SUBSTITUTE for GAME EXPERIENCE.
True, WHEN HE IS READY. He isn't.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:25 PM   #45
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There are a lot of things that Croyle can do in practice to make him more prepared to start. He needs to work on his mechanics, and stop throwing off his back leg. That is something he needs to learn in practice before he steps on the field. You don't learn good mechanics in a game with defenders in your face. You learn them in practice, and practice them over and over until it becomes second nature. THEN you are ready to take the field. Like in anything else you have to learn the fundamentals before taking the next step. You can't learn how to run until you learn how to walk.

I think this will be good for Croyle, and better for the Chiefs in the long run. If you put Croyle in a situation like that, with that OL, then he is never going to learn to learn proper mechanics because he will be running for his life all the time.
The voice of reason is such an odd sight around here I hardly knew what it was at first.
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