Chiefs Top DC Candidate - Page 24

**The Bad Guy** · 01-07-2013, 08:55 AM

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.

**SAUTO** · 01-07-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Remember when Matt Ryan was a bleh prospect? Let's ask Miami and Atlanta about this.
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Sooooo?
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Chiefs=Champions · 01-07-2013, 08:45 PM

For the Teo fans, he is directly responsible for two of bamas three touchdowns.

ChiefRocka · 01-07-2013, 08:45 PM

The pick is a QB. I don't know what all this background noise is.

**the Talking Can** · 01-07-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Im not understanding what people are afraid of.

They're afraid of taking a QB, but aren't afraid of taking any other position?

This just in: Other positions bust too! We've had several!

What is there to be afraid of?

If he busts, KEEP TRYING until you find one! That's the only way to win in this league.

You'd think Chiefs fans would be "fearless" in FINALLY taking a QB, THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION and scared to death of taking another defensive lineman...But its the other way around.

Chiefs fans are scared of taking a Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson, two QBs who have arm strength, accuracy, pocket presence, etc...Something this franchise hasn't had in forever. For some reason, they don't want that.

it's a weird disease...only drafting a QB is risky, to chiefs fans, everything else is safe

never mind that the real risk is in NOT drafting a QB...or that we wasted 3 decades playing it safe and have nothing to show for it

another decade of losing is better than 'gasp' drafting a player 5 spots above mel kiper's ranking...

has always been this way, always will

**SAUTO** · 01-07-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

it's a weird disease...only drafting a QB is risky, to chiefs fans, everything else is safe

never mind that the real risk is in NOT drafting a QB...or that we wasted 3 decades playing it safe and have nothing to show for it

another decade of losing is better than 'gasp' drafting a player 5 spots above mel kiper's ranking...

has always been this way, always will

Glad to see you are rounding into form. Get em
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**the Talking Can** · 01-07-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Glad to see you are rounding into form. Get em
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i've waited my whole life for the #1 pick

neither the walrus, nor jesus will deny me my QB

**SAUTO** · 01-07-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i've waited my whole life for the #1 pick

neither the walrus, nor jesus will deny me my QB

I'm rolling with you
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Pasta Little Brioni · 01-07-2013, 08:55 PM

Geno is well worth the ****ing risk and I will not rationalize passing on him.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

A Qb with a point value of say 90 is more valuable than any other position with a 95+ score just remember that.
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I know. And I've never stated that the Chiefs shouldn't take a QB with the #1 overall pick. They should.

But Andy Reid today opened the door into next year.

Regardless of CPer's wants, I think it's worthy of discussion.

**SAUTO** · 01-07-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Geno is well worth the ****ing risk and I will not rationalize passing on him.

Seems like the perfect ****ing storm
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**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

By the time the draft rolls around, there will likely be THREE QBs rated higher than 11. It's the nature of the modern game.

Right, which is why I stated specifically that I don't put any stock into ratings like that at this time.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And the LB who is now getting off his ass after getting run over, literally, is in the top 5.

And I've stated on several occasions that he's nothing more than a glorified 2nd round selection. I've even gone so far as to state I'd be surprised if he even runs a 4.6 at The Combines.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That same head coach, when asked about the QB situation in KC, said "they have the first pick in the draft".

Honestly, what do you expect them to say when he HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET? Does anybody expect him to say in his introductory presser "we are gonna take a QB #1 overall"?

WAY too much is being read into it, IMO.

I'm not reading into anything. He said what he said.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

If the 10 players listed in front of him are Jeockel, Werner, Jones, Te'o, Milliner, Moore, Mingo, Matthiews, Lotulelei and Lewan, then yes, I'd be completely fine with taking the #11 talent. Most valuable position (by far), team's greatest need (by far), greatest potential long term benefit. It's a no-brainer to me.

The stars have aligned.

I know and I appreciated your analysis and insight from yesterday, so thank you.

bricks · 01-07-2013, 09:03 PM

Chiefs have to take a QB. It's a must imo.

They got the #1 pick in the draft. Come. on. man.

It's easily the biggest position of need on the team. I think they have to approach this draft according to both best talent available to go along with position of need and go by position that has the most value/impact on the team. So value/talent/need should all be taken into consideration when making the #1 pick. To me, that all spells QB.

Where else are they going to find young, and outstanding talent at the position?
I can't think of anywhere else. Where else?

It doesn't come often where your team gets the #1 pick in the draft and has the opportunity to pick the best talent in the country at that position. You have to take a chance, if he is bust. He is a bust. What can you do?

On the other hand, if he is great, your team is rewarded with stability and longevity at the position for years to come. I think it's about being a gunslinger. Hit or miss man. That's just the nature of it and the way it goes.

*Im also open to a project believe it or not. Only because we have a head coach that has a good reputation with QB's. Regardless, I want to see the QB position filled at all cylinders with the #1 pick, perhaps even draft one in either the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even later rounds. I just want to see it addressed. I would even like to see us bring in a veteran QB. We need a starter, a backup and some good quality depth. Im happy we got a head coach that is good at both evaluating Qb's and developing them. I like our chances and I trust Reid's judgement.

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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9373645	Top DC Candidate As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach. I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it. I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit. Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed. Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ? Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role. I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today. Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9902559	Chiefs have to take a QB. It's a must imo. They got the #1 pick in the draft. Come. on. man. It's easily the biggest position of need on the team. I think they have to approach this draft according to both best talent available to go along with position of need and go by position that has the most value/impact on the team. So value/talent/need should all be taken into consideration when making the #1 pick. To me, that all spells QB. Where else are they going to find young, and outstanding talent at the position? I can't think of anywhere else. Where else? It doesn't come often where your team gets the #1 pick in the draft and has the opportunity to pick the best talent in the country at that position. You have to take a chance, if he is bust. He is a bust. What can you do? On the other hand, if he is great, your team is rewarded with stability and longevity at the position for years to come. I think it's about being a gunslinger. Hit or miss man. That's just the nature of it and the way it goes. *Im also open to a project believe it or not. Only because we have a head coach that has a good reputation with QB's. Regardless, I want to see the QB position filled at all cylinders with the #1 pick, perhaps even draft one in either the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even later rounds. I just want to see it addressed. I would even like to see us bring in a veteran QB. We need a starter, a backup and some good quality depth. Im happy we got a head coach that is good at both evaluating Qb's and developing them. I like our chances and I trust Reid's judgement.
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