Movies and TV The Official "Lost" the series discussion - Page 194

Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-06-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Dane, I appreciate your views on the show. I would never have even heard of the term "axis mundi" had you not posted it. That being said, the fact that you choose to talk down to and treat everyone here as an idiot makes no sense to me.

Just present your opinions without berating everyone and people wouldn't be attacking you right now.

I'm only being attacked by people that want to argue. As predicted, Adept feels the need to tear apart, line by line and phrase by phrase, anything that anyone says that isn't in line with his thinking. It's his M.O. I'm fine with it but it's not unexpected.

Additionally, I'm not calling anyone an idiot. I didn't use those words. The fact that someone can't see plot holes in a movie, TV series or book doesn't negate the fact that they exist.

Furthermore, bringing up a totally unrelated film and my opinion of it doesn't have any bearing on the discussion at hand.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-06-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

You are saying that all intelligent people are infallible?

Bringing up my opinion of "Juno" should have no bearing on the "Lost" discussion.

Adept Havelock · 05-06-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm only being attacked by people that want to argue. As predicted, Adept feels the need to tear apart, line by line and phrase by phrase, anything that anyone says that isn't in line with his thinking. It's his M.O. I'm fine with it but it's not unexpected.

Poor Dane...attacked by people who call him out for talking down to people who have a differing opinion on something unsubstantiated. How upsetting that someone might dare to disagree with something you said, thereby arguing.

I suppose that's easier than admitting you made a false accusation.

Then again, that is your M.O. so I guess I'm OK with it too.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Additionally, I'm not calling anyone an idiot. I didn't use those words.

At least you're not denying Guru's (accurate) assessment of you talking down to people.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-06-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Poor Dane...attacked by people who call him out for talking down to people who have a differing opinion on something unsubstantiated. How upsetting that someone might dare to disagree with something you said, thereby arguing.

I suppose that's easier than admitting you made a false accusation.

Then again, that is your M.O. so I guess I'm OK with it too.

Whatever.

Where did I "talk down" to anyone? By stating "You guys don't get it?" That's talking down?

If so, I'm guilty. Talk about touchy.

Additionally, you LOVE to debate with anyone with whom disagrees with you or your opinion, yet the person with whom you're debating is referred to as an "egomaniac". THAT makes no sense, whatsoever.

**noa** · 05-06-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Where did I "talk down" to anyone? By stating "You guys don't get it?" That's talking down?

You're kidding, right?

Wow.

Adept Havelock · 05-06-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Additionally, you LOVE to debate with anyone with whom disagrees with you or your opinion, yet the person with whom you're debating is referred to as an "egomaniac". THAT makes no sense, whatsoever.

You're partly right. I do enjoy debate. Debate usually happens when there is a disagreement.

However, you're the only one I call an "egomaniac". Why? As I explained, for berating and talking down to people for having a different opinion about something no one knows...namely how the show LOST will play out.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

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Originally Posted by noa

You're kidding, right?

Wow.

No, it must just be my addled perceptions because I enjoy debating with people. Dane couldn't possibly be seen as condescending by anyone else.

irishjayhawk · 05-06-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bringing up my opinion of "Juno" should have no bearing on the "Lost" discussion.

Perhaps a PM answer? I'm honestly curious.

**noa** · 05-06-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

No, it must just be my addled perceptions because I enjoy debating with people. Dane couldn't possibly be seen as condescending by anyone else.

What part of "I watch this TV show better than any of you guys" could be condescending?

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-06-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm only being attacked by people that want to argue.

I don't want to argue.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It is so apparent that none of you guys really "get" this show.

But, when you type condescending remarks like that, some feel the need to defend themselves. Just saying...

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-06-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by noa

You're kidding, right?

Wow.

Thanks for including my next sentence in that quote.

Excuse me. I didn't realize that my comments on "Lost" would hurt so many people's feelings.

When people here don't get the time-travel aspect of this show or totally ignore it then yes, I feel like they're not getting it.

Why is that so wrong to point out? Especially after 84 episodes?

**noa** · 05-06-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Thanks for including my next sentence in that quote.

Excuse me. I didn't realize that my comments on "Lost" would hurt so many people's feelings.

When people here don't get the time-travel aspect of this show or totally ignore it then yes, I feel like they're not getting it.

Why is that so wrong to point out? Especially after 84 episodes?

I didn't need to quote the rest because your original post was "It is so apparent that none of you guys really "get" this show.

Out of all the posts in this thread, you're the only one who knows what you're talking about.

I agree that a lot of people are speculating on stuff inconsistent with what we know to be true, but that doesn't mean that nobody gets it.

And, its not that I care about who watches this show more intensely, I also don't happen to agree with your axis mundi theory.
I've read other time travel theories that I find more compelling.

And I think people would be fine with you pointing out parts of the show you want them to get, but just use some tact. Don't call everyone else ignorant than then be surprised when we're offended.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-06-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by noa

I didn't need to quote the rest because your original post was "Its obvious to me that a lot of you don't get this."

That's the only thing I took issue with.

Its not that I care about who watches this show more intensely, I just don't happen to agree with your axis mundi theory.
I've read other time travel theories that I find more compelling.

And I think people would be fine with you pointing out parts of the show you want them to get, but just use some tact. Don't call everyone else ignorant than then be surprised when we're offended.

I've read other time-travel theories as well, it's just that I didn't think of them

Again, I apologize for my "choice of words". I really didn't think they'd create such a fervor.

It was just an off-the-cuff remark made late at night.

**noa** · 05-06-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've read other time-travel theories as well, it's just that I didn't think of them

Again, I apologize for my "choice of words". I really didn't think they'd create such a fervor.

It was just an off-the-cuff remark made late at night.

Haha, ok.

Adept Havelock · 05-06-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've read other time-travel theories as well, it's just that I didn't think of them

Again, I apologize for my "choice of words". I really didn't think they'd create such a fervor.

It was just an off-the-cuff remark made late at night.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Whatever.

keg in kc · 05-07-2008, 01:27 AM

Finally got around to watching, and that was one really good ep.

I've always enjoyed the Jack-Kate-Sawyer triangle throughout the series, and I thought it was perfect the way they finally brought Jack and Kate together only to have it fall apart.

They need that kind of "girly" soap-opera stuff, because that's the kind of stuff that makes you give a shit about whether the characters live or die. The island's a cool place, but the show would be nothing if Jack, Kate, Locke, Sawyer, Claire and everybody else didn't seem 'real'.

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05-07-2008, 01:27 AM	#2910
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Finally got around to watching, and that was one really good ep. I've always enjoyed the Jack-Kate-Sawyer triangle throughout the series, and I thought it was perfect the way they finally brought Jack and Kate together only to have it fall apart. They need that kind of "girly" soap-opera stuff, because that's the kind of stuff that makes you give a shit about whether the characters live or die. The island's a cool place, but the show would be nothing if Jack, Kate, Locke, Sawyer, Claire and everybody else didn't seem 'real'.
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