DON'T fire Ned Yost

[Lex Luthor]

Ned made a great decision in the bottom of the 10th inning today. If Ned hadn't had Getz pinch run for Billy, the inning would have been over before Justin Maxwell ever came to the plate.

Everybody hates Ned and wants him to be fired. I don't. He sometimes makes game-time decisions that are easy to second-guess, but you've got to give him credit: the Royals have just about the best clubhouse atmosphere and team camraderie of any team I've ever seen. Ned deserves a hell of a lot of credit for that.

Not only do I think Ned won't be fired, I'm convinced he shouldn't be fired.

Edit: I was drunk with the euphoria of Justin Maxwell's walkoff grand slam when I created this thread. I have since sobered up.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Well, I was asking for proof Yost is a bad manager. I still haven't received it. I know for a fact Dayton has full control over player personnel because every GM in the league has it. You're throwing out baseless theories you can't prove.

DM has been forthright in all his interviews about how he handles personnel matters in a collaborative manner, regardless of what his job's "powers" are. If you don't want to take his words at face value, then you are the one stepping into the world of speculation.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

DM has been forthright in all his interviews about how he handles personnel matters in a collaborative manner, regardless of what his job's "powers" are. If you don't want to take his words at face value, then you are the one stepping into the world of speculation.

Lol. What's he supposed to say: "Well, Ned has opinions but of course I hold all the power so his ideas really don't count for shit in the end." Yeah.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Lol. What's he supposed to say: "Well, Ned has opinions but of course I hold all the power so his ideas really don't count for shit in the end." Yeah.

Prove he's being disingenuous.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Ned made a great decision in the bottom of the 10th inning today. If Ned hadn't had Getz pinch run for Billy, the inning would have been over before Justin Maxwell ever came to the plate.

Everybody hates Ned and wants him to be fired. I don't. He sometimes makes game-time decisions that are easy to second-guess, but you've got to give him credit: the Royals have just about the best clubhouse atmosphere and team camraderie of any team I've ever seen. Ned deserves a hell of a lot of credit for that.

Not only do I think Ned won't be fired, I'm convinced he shouldn't be fired.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

After watching the Royals feeble effort the last two nights, I'd just like to apologize to everyone for this stupid ****ing thread.

Not quite sure it is the manager's fault that the players do not get enough hits to score any runs.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

don't care about the thread

just wanted to say that i'd hit that

So would I.

With my car.

****ing Juggalos...

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

How much of this is Yost? I think DM deserves a lot of criticism for not making these changes.

Some of it is Moore's fault, yes. But Yost, even when better players are on the roster (i.e. Louis Coleman), refuses to play them.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Whether DM is a good, average or terrible as a GM is irrelevant to the OP. Yost was fired while his team was in FIRST PLACE. That happens to ZERO managers unless they are blatantly incompetent. This has all happened before and it will happen again...

Does anyone doubt this team would be better off and entrenched with a playoff spot with Francona as the manager?

[Great Expectations]

Originally Posted by thurman merman

Some of it is Moore's fault, yes. But Yost, even when better players are on the roster (i.e. Louis Coleman), refuses to play them.

great point

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Jerm

You're late to the party. I've already apologized for starting this thread.

I was unduly influenced by the temporary euphoria of Justin Maxwell's walkoff grand slam on Sunday. I've since come to my senses. Ned Yost is a buffoon.

[Mr. Laz]

Yost is a fine coach for a team struggling to get out of the dumpster. He's a robot ... losing doesn't make him flinch. He teaches the team to not get depressed or give up.

high floor/low ceiling kind of guy imo


Do we want to avoid losing or push to win?

As much as we have sucked i would understand just trying to avoid losing right now.

not happy, but i understand

That said, Yost cost a dozen games this year ... easy. That was enough to make the playoffs this season

How many games did is 'good,stable clubhouse win us?'

i don't know.

[CaliforniaChief]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

That said Yost cost a dozen games this year ... easy. That's enough to make the playoffs.

A dozen games? There have been a few that I can think of, but I can't think of close to 12.

[BlackHelicopters]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

A dozen games? There have been a few that I can think of, but I can't think of close to 12.

Even if we say he cost us 6, that is still playoff territory.

[J Diddy]

@ Royals fans.

Guy who's lead you to a real conversation about Royals and October in 2 decades and you're like "fire him" we're not ws champs.

[CaliforniaChief]

I've always believed that Yost's greatest strength is that he built a mental toughness into the team that kept them bouncing back. That was the first hurdle to clear.

Tactically, he's below average. Bunts too early/often, leaving starters in too long. The only thing he seemed to have an eye for are hit and run opportunities.