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Old 08-05-2007, 09:57 PM  
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Are you smarter than the President?

I know this is a pretty low standard but I thought I would conduct a quiz.
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:59 AM   #31
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There are people in the GOP, like Newt Grinch, who wants to get rid of free speech during this war. That could come, especially if more attacks come here which Michael Sheuer ( former CIA chief of binLaden unit) which Sheuer says is coming despite the WH rhetoric and being in Iraq to fight them there.

If this is a "war that may never end" don't count this out. And don't forget, Bushies has been more subtle in stifling criticism. All the right wing think tanks, oops sorry, former right wing think-tanks, many newspapers and media outlets fired the paleo-cons who opposed the Iraq invasion. It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.
It's still a long ways from having the Postmaster General read people's mail and then jailing them.

I'm not happy with a lot of the things being done but, like almost every other time, this idea that Bush is the worst flys in the face of the facts. It makes you wonder what schools teach today. It can't be US history pre-1993.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:08 AM   #32
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Not only the worst president in the history of the US, but the worst president in the history of the word "president", in any nation in any era. He's made us the laughing stock of the world and it's going to take decades to undo the damage that has been done to this country, internationally and domestically. Let's just hope he doesn't declare himself a 3rd term.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:14 AM   #33
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Because 8 years of damage to our international prestige etc. will linger for a really, REALLY long time.
Since when do we need to care about the rest of PC Europe.

International prestige is myth.

Who comes to the aid of everybody in the world. Hurricanes, Typhoons, Earthquakes etc. It's not the UN (League of Nations) or any our "allies".
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:20 AM   #34
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Since when do we need to care about the rest of PC Europe.

International prestige is myth.

Who comes to the aid of everybody in the world. Hurricanes, Typhoons, Earthquakes etc. It's not the UN (League of Nations) or any our "allies".
Neither you nor I have any idea how much help we do/don't get from foreign governments when it comes to tracking terrorists or other enemies of our country, passing information back and forth between intelligence agencies, tracking the money the bad guys use to finance operations, etc. etc.

You can say f--- off world, but you need to understand that you need friends around the world to have any ability to control what goes on. The British Empire was the classic example of this -- hundreds of years of being able to reach into practically any part of the world.

If you think you can fight the Taliban and Al Queda without Pakistan, then great. If you think you can invade Iraq as easily without Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, then great. But you're a moron if so.

Friends are good. You need to keep your arrogance of American supremacy in check and remember that.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:29 AM   #35
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Not only the worst president in the history of the US, but the worst president in the history of the word "president", in any nation in any era. He's made us the laughing stock of the world and it's going to take decades to undo the damage that has been done to this country, internationally and domestically. Let's just hope he doesn't declare himself a 3rd term.
See this is the kind of stupid ass rhetoric that blinds people from fixing the problems. You lump all of the problems on Bush's shoulders without laying the blame on those who also deserve it. The law legitimizing the warrant-less wiretaps was passed by Congress. They approved the fighting in Iraq. They continue to approve the fighting. One of the Congressmen had cash in his freezer. Another built a bridge to nowhere. The Supreme Court expanded Eminent Domain. There's a lot of bad being done by many, many of our elected officials and party has little to do with it. They just demonize the other side while lining their own pockets.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:08 AM   #36
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:13 AM   #37
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It makes you wonder what schools teach today. It can't be US history pre-1993.
Well, consider who's in charge of deciding what is taught.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:15 AM   #38
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See this is the kind of stupid ass rhetoric that blinds people from fixing the problems. You lump all of the problems on Bush's shoulders without laying the blame on those who also deserve it. The law legitimizing the warrant-less wiretaps was passed by Congress. They approved the fighting in Iraq. They continue to approve the fighting. One of the Congressmen had cash in his freezer. Another built a bridge to nowhere. The Supreme Court expanded Eminent Domain. There's a lot of bad being done by many, many of our elected officials and party has little to do with it. They just demonize the other side while lining their own pockets.
The culpability of others does not absolve the cretin in chief of responsibility.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:20 AM   #39
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The culpability of others does not absolve the cretin in chief of responsibility.
If you oppose a legislative action, and choose not to hold responsible the people in your party of choice who participated in that action, then you yourself are also culpable.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:23 AM   #40
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If you oppose a legislative action, and choose not to hold responsible the people in your party of choice who participated in that action, then you yourself are also culpable.
My party of choice is Independent.

You know, you don't have to be partisan to think W has the IQ of a lab rat with Down's Syndrome.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:57 AM   #41
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My party of choice is Independent.

You know, you don't have to be partisan to think W has the IQ of a lab rat with Down's Syndrome.


They try to paint anyone who thinks Bush is a dope as a radicalized leftist. What they fail to realize is that it's mainstream to think Bush is a dope, even if they really don't want it to be.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:00 PM   #42
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The culpability of others does not absolve the cretin in chief of responsibility.
Nor does it make him solely responsible. It's Congress's job to limit the Exec's power, if they aren't then they have to shoulder the blame too. At this point by listening to conversations without a warrant the Exec branch is doing their job. It's especially bad that all Congress seems to be able to do is go on and on about how bad he is then turn right around a pass something like this. Two-faced and incompetent.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:18 PM   #43
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Neither you nor I have any idea how much help we do/don't get from foreign governments when it comes to tracking terrorists or other enemies of our country, passing information back and forth between intelligence agencies, tracking the money the bad guys use to finance operations, etc. etc.

You can say f--- off world, but you need to understand that you need friends around the world to have any ability to control what goes on. The British Empire was the classic example of this -- hundreds of years of being able to reach into practically any part of the world.

If you think you can fight the Taliban and Al Queda without Pakistan, then great. If you think you can invade Iraq as easily without Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, then great. But you're a moron if so.

Friends are good. You need to keep your arrogance of American supremacy in check and remember that.
The back scratching should work both ways.. Some how it does when convenient for them.

The run up to the war is further proof that disrupting the EU/Russian business with Saddam was more important than terrorists.....

We do have some allies in the world not sure how much trust to give them. Saudi/Kuwait/Pakistan seem to be "afraid" of Taliban/AlQueda
as they enjoy their Status in Arab world.

Europe sees the advantage of working with us to find terrorists now that they have been HIT in Spain/U.K., germans find them in Hamburg, but where are they when it comes to fighting, funding?
Frenchies have their own muslim problems brewing.

America tends to walk softly and carry a big stick. Now that 9/11 has come the big stick is out.
You can call it supremecy or the world's problem fixer.

The folks around the world that scream the loudest have the most political capital to lose.

The world is either for or against eliminating the sh1t disturbers, hell bent on destruction of what they don't believe.

Comparing US to British empire is a stretch.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:41 PM   #45
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I dont think there is a single person on this BB that is actually smarter than the president. Those that think they are smarter than Bush are mistaken. President Bush is a Knight of Eulogia.
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