Chiefs Belcher to Pioli, "I Love you bro"

kczoo · 12-03-2012, 08:42 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...i-love-you-bro

okoye35chiefs · 12-03-2012, 08:45 AM

every time I think I know how I feel about this I read a new article.

In 2 weeks when it is all out there I think it will help people move on...

stonedstooge · 12-03-2012, 08:45 AM

I have a hard time believing Fat Scott and his pimping out of himself. Wonder what was really said

durtyrute · 12-03-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

I have a hard time believing Fat Scott and his pimping out of himself. Wonder what was really said

I was thinking the same thing. He could've said, "it's because of you that this team is so shitty, see you in hell ****o"

Probably not, but we'll never know.

Deberg_1990 · 12-03-2012, 08:52 AM

I wonder who Kings source was?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

But as I reported on NBC Sunday night, a source close to law enforcement on the scene Saturday told me the story had some differences from the one widely reported over the weekend. When Pioli arrived at the Chiefs' complex around 8 a.m., Belcher had just arrived and was out of his car. Pioli got out of his car and noticed that Belcher was in an agitated state, according to my source. As they spoke, Pioli saw Belcher had a gun. Though Belcher was clearly unstable, the source said Pioli didn't feel threatened because Belcher never pointed the gun at him. Belcher and Pioli were alone in the parking lot, a few yards apart, for several minutes.

(The source did not tell me if Pioli knew exactly what Belcher had done before he arrived, but he said clearly Belcher had shot someone and spoke of the police coming for him soon.)

At one point while the two men were alone in the parking lot, the source said, Belcher said to Pioli: "I came here to tell you thank you. Thank you for my chance. I love you, bro.''

The source said Pioli tried to calm Belcher, but had little success. At one point, Belcher asked Pioli, "Can I talk to Romeo and Gary?'' Crennel and Gibbs, he meant.

Pioli took out his cell phone and called Crennel, asking him to get Gibbs and come outside. (Imagine what Pioli had to be thinking here: I'm calling two of my closest coaching friends to come out into an open parking lot with an unstable man with a gun, who apparently has shot someone, and is impervious to any attempt to calm him down. How dangerous is that?)

Within minutes Gibbs and Crennel appeared. They, too, tried to calm Belcher, to no avail. Belcher thanked them for his NFL opportunity, and he began to walk away from them.

"I wasn't able to reach the young man,'' Crennel said softly over the phone from Kansas City Sunday.

Belcher walked a few steps away, put the gun to his head, and pulled the trigger.

htismaqe · 12-03-2012, 08:56 AM

I would imagine King's source is Scott Pioli himself.

memyselfI · 12-03-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I wonder who Kings source was?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

But as I reported on NBC Sunday night, a source close to law enforcement on the scene Saturday told me the story had some differences from the one widely reported over the weekend. When Pioli arrived at the Chiefs' complex around 8 a.m., Belcher had just arrived and was out of his car. Pioli got out of his car and noticed that Belcher was in an agitated state, according to my source. As they spoke, Pioli saw Belcher had a gun. Though Belcher was clearly unstable, the source said Pioli didn't feel threatened because Belcher never pointed the gun at him. Belcher and Pioli were alone in the parking lot, a few yards apart, for several minutes.

(The source did not tell me if Pioli knew exactly what Belcher had done before he arrived, but he said clearly Belcher had shot someone and spoke of the police coming for him soon.)

At one point while the two men were alone in the parking lot, the source said, Belcher said to Pioli: "I came here to tell you thank you. Thank you for my chance. I love you, bro.''

The source said Pioli tried to calm Belcher, but had little success. At one point, Belcher asked Pioli, "Can I talk to Romeo and Gary?'' Crennel and Gibbs, he meant.

Pioli took out his cell phone and called Crennel, asking him to get Gibbs and come outside. (Imagine what Pioli had to be thinking here: I'm calling two of my closest coaching friends to come out into an open parking lot with an unstable man with a gun, who apparently has shot someone, and is impervious to any attempt to calm him down. How dangerous is that?)

Within minutes Gibbs and Crennel appeared. They, too, tried to calm Belcher, to no avail. Belcher thanked them for his NFL opportunity, and he began to walk away from them.

"I wasn't able to reach the young man,'' Crennel said softly over the phone from Kansas City Sunday.

Belcher walked a few steps away, put the gun to his head, and pulled the trigger.

I do think that Scott obviously felt no danger coming from Belcher or why would he call his friends out to a dangerous situation. If this story is true then I think he sounds like a hero in this and am not going to begrudge him that because his job as GM has stunk.

Rasputin · 12-03-2012, 09:18 AM

I didn't realize or didn't see it reported before that Gary Gibbs was also out there with them in the parking lot. Those three men have a heavy burden to carry I feel for them. I pray for healing for them and the team and especially for the little girl and her family.

This is all unprecedented situation & no hand book to deal with it. I think the coaches and even Pioli handled it the best way they could. I don't like Pioli as our GM and have little respect for him as a man, but I don't hold this against him. It could have been any GM that gave Belcher the opportunity to play in the NFL it just happen to be Scott Pioli and that is why Belcher in an unstable state of mind went to Scott Pioli knowingly what he had done and knew he was going to off himself and nothing anyone could do to change that. Belcher is a dead man he took away more than just his own life. He took away peoples lives as they knew it.

Reerun_KC · 12-03-2012, 09:21 AM

Pioli is a ****ing genious. He is going to work this into being a sympathy maryter and get the fan support on his side.

3-4 more years of Pioli.

**loochy** · 12-03-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

I do think that Scott obviously felt no danger coming from Belcher or why would he call his friends out to a dangerous situation. If this story is true then I think he sounds like a hero in this and am not going to begrudge him that because his job as GM has stunk.

How is he a hero? WTF? He tried to do what probably anyone would try to do and talk down Belcher.

**Old Dog** · 12-03-2012, 09:22 AM

Different view: If Belcher wanted to talk to Crennel I have the suspicion that he had the number and could have called himself. Pioli calling to bring the two of them into the situtaion could be that he was simply being a coward and trying to distance himself from it.

I'm not saying this IS the case, but I"ve read a lot of folks talk about how "heroic" Pioli and/or Crennel are and I'm just not seeing it.

In58men · 12-03-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

How is he a hero? WTF? He tried to do what probably anyone would try to do and talk down Belcher.

I agree. Calling Romeo out to the parking is in no way of a heroic act lol.

**loochy** · 12-03-2012, 09:27 AM

It would have been heroic if somehow Pioli would have intervened BEFORE Belcher murdered his babymama...but this situation was kind of forced on Pioli so he just did what he had to do. He wasn't heroic and he wasn't cowardly.

ROYC75 · 12-03-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

It would have been heroic if somehow Pioli would have intervened BEFORE Belcher murdered his babymama...but this situation was kind of forced on Pioli so he just did what he had to do. He wasn't heroic and he wasn't cowardly.

This!

In58men · 12-03-2012, 09:30 AM

It would have been heroic if Pioli did a head dive and was able to snatch the gun outta his hands.

Belcher: "Well **** there goes my plan".

12-03-2012, 08:42 AM
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12-03-2012, 08:45 AM	#2
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12-03-2012, 08:52 AM	#5
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	I wonder who Kings source was? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2 But as I reported on NBC Sunday night, a source close to law enforcement on the scene Saturday told me the story had some differences from the one widely reported over the weekend. When Pioli arrived at the Chiefs' complex around 8 a.m., Belcher had just arrived and was out of his car. Pioli got out of his car and noticed that Belcher was in an agitated state, according to my source. As they spoke, Pioli saw Belcher had a gun. Though Belcher was clearly unstable, the source said Pioli didn't feel threatened because Belcher never pointed the gun at him. Belcher and Pioli were alone in the parking lot, a few yards apart, for several minutes. (The source did not tell me if Pioli knew exactly what Belcher had done before he arrived, but he said clearly Belcher had shot someone and spoke of the police coming for him soon.) At one point while the two men were alone in the parking lot, the source said, Belcher said to Pioli: "I came here to tell you thank you. Thank you for my chance. I love you, bro.'' The source said Pioli tried to calm Belcher, but had little success. At one point, Belcher asked Pioli, "Can I talk to Romeo and Gary?'' Crennel and Gibbs, he meant. Pioli took out his cell phone and called Crennel, asking him to get Gibbs and come outside. (Imagine what Pioli had to be thinking here: I'm calling two of my closest coaching friends to come out into an open parking lot with an unstable man with a gun, who apparently has shot someone, and is impervious to any attempt to calm him down. How dangerous is that?) Within minutes Gibbs and Crennel appeared. They, too, tried to calm Belcher, to no avail. Belcher thanked them for his NFL opportunity, and he began to walk away from them. "I wasn't able to reach the young man,'' Crennel said softly over the phone from Kansas City Sunday. Belcher walked a few steps away, put the gun to his head, and pulled the trigger. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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12-03-2012, 08:56 AM	#6
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I would imagine King's source is Scott Pioli himself.
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12-03-2012, 09:18 AM	#8
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3535421	I didn't realize or didn't see it reported before that Gary Gibbs was also out there with them in the parking lot. Those three men have a heavy burden to carry I feel for them. I pray for healing for them and the team and especially for the little girl and her family. This is all unprecedented situation & no hand book to deal with it. I think the coaches and even Pioli handled it the best way they could. I don't like Pioli as our GM and have little respect for him as a man, but I don't hold this against him. It could have been any GM that gave Belcher the opportunity to play in the NFL it just happen to be Scott Pioli and that is why Belcher in an unstable state of mind went to Scott Pioli knowingly what he had done and knew he was going to off himself and nothing anyone could do to change that. Belcher is a dead man he took away more than just his own life. He took away peoples lives as they knew it. __________________ A Brave Man Once Requested Me To Answer Questions That Are Key 'Is It To Be Or Not To Be' And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
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12-03-2012, 09:21 AM	#9
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12-03-2012, 09:22 AM	#11
Old Dog Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Central Kansas Casino cash: $4766131	Different view: If Belcher wanted to talk to Crennel I have the suspicion that he had the number and could have called himself. Pioli calling to bring the two of them into the situtaion could be that he was simply being a coward and trying to distance himself from it. I'm not saying this IS the case, but I"ve read a lot of folks talk about how "heroic" Pioli and/or Crennel are and I'm just not seeing it.
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12-03-2012, 09:27 AM	#13
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $2230752	It would have been heroic if somehow Pioli would have intervened BEFORE Belcher murdered his babymama...but this situation was kind of forced on Pioli so he just did what he had to do. He wasn't heroic and he wasn't cowardly. __________________ Hey Loochy, I'm hoooome!
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In58men Baba Ganoush Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $2378026	It would have been heroic if Pioli did a head dive and was able to snatch the gun outta his hands. Belcher: "Well **** there goes my plan".
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