Top DC Candidate

[The Bad Guy]

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This is what everyone should want. They should want an evaluation, and not some asshole coming in here with his mind already made up like the last GM who I won't even dignify with a name anymore.

Instead, there's going to be some on here who go all crazy if Geno Smith isn't the guy.

I want a QB in here too, but I also wanted new leadership first and foremost. I trust that new leadership can identify QBs since that's what a majority of them have done an incredible job with a majority of their careers.

Exactly.

The man is considered a QB "Guru" and there's little evidence to doubt his judgements over the years. If he passes or trades out at #1, I'm good with it.

This isn't 2012 or 2004 or 1983.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by O.city

And yes, there will be some on here that will shit ass bricks if it isn't Geno.

But for the most part, I think the majority feel that Wilson, Smith, and Barkley would all be good picks.


Or atleast thats how I feel.

I would hope so. I think there are going to end up being really good QBs from this class. I just don't know which 2 or 3 will really pan out. There's no slam dunk for me. Each has a red flag.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Actually you are right, Campbell is a free agent. I thought he signed a 2 year deal.

Moore is as well. I thought he signed his 2 year deal for 5 million last offseason.

I would be fine with Moore, but if you think Campbell is more accurate and can read a defense better than Vick, I don't know what you've been watching.

I didn't think Campbell was bad in a WCO, but he's not elite accuracy wise.

I just don't think Vick fits Reid's style of offense. He can read a defense, just not fast enough.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This forum is all about Geno Smith as a Franchise QB. Yet every single article I read elsewhere says that this draft doesn't have a Franchise QB.

And every single one of those articles mention RG3 and Andrew Luck.

The simple fact is that this year's class is being judged unfairly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I would hope so. I think there are going to end up being really good QBs from this class. I just don't know which 2 or 3 will really pan out. There's no slam dunk for me. Each has a red flag.

This.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Absolutely he's going to evaluate the roster in great depth. I wouldn't expect anything less, but I don't think making that statement, while true, makes any news. Kind of like saying after a loss, "We need to execute better." Well, no shit.

What he's not going to do is give any indication of how he'll fix the QB situation in KC.

Now, I agree that he might not take a QB at 1/1, but I think it's an absolute lock that we won't get beyond the #33 overall pick without selecting a QB who will be penciled in to start next season at some point.

I agree with what you've said but I just don't see "Coach Speak" in his remarks. I thought it was as thoughtful an answer an incoming head coach could answer at this point.

Although if evaluating Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi takes more than three days, I'll be concerned.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Exactly.

The man is considered a QB "Guru" and there's little evidence to doubt his judgements over the years. If he passes or trades out at #1, I'm good with it.

This isn't 2012 or 2004 or 1983.

It also isn't 2007, either.

And I don't think there's any chance in hell we trade out of #1.

If we don't want a QB, nobody else does either. If you take out the QBs, there's literally TWO blue chip prospects in this draft and the Chiefs could use both of them.

We're not trading out because we won't be able to find a willing partner.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And every single one of those articles mention RG3 and Andrew Luck.

The simple fact is that this year's class is being judged unfairly.

Fairly or unfairly, that will be the standard moving forward.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And every single one of those articles mention RG3 and Andrew Luck.

The simple fact is that this year's class is being judged unfairly.

It absolutely is.

It's like going to a 5 star steak house one night, and then saying "There's no good steak anywhere else". Or if you date a super model in high school that doesn't mean you can't date a solid 8 later on in life.

Those 2 guys are once in a generation talents (although Shanny may have killed RG).

[O.city]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I would hope so. I think there are going to end up being really good QBs from this class. I just don't know which 2 or 3 will really pan out. There's no slam dunk for me. Each has a red flag.

Yeah they do.

I will say that I think alot of the Red Flags from Geno have more to do with his defense and some things that weren't necessarily his fault, but he's the QB, that's inevitably on him.

Same with Barkley. He was considered a really high pick last year, yet doesn't have the same skillset? I think he would fit really well in a Reid system.

Wilson had a shit ton of off field stuff go on in Fayettville this year, that absolutely weren't his fault and the attitude stuff, IMO, is a little out of proportion.

So yeah, there isn't a slam dunk ala Luck, but thats hardly the case and great QB's get drafted alot.

There is a guy in there, and for the first time in a while, I think the Chiefs staff are competent and rather good at id'ing said guy.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fairly or unfairly, that will be the standard moving forward.

Not for smart people, it won't be.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It absolutely is.

It's like going to a 5 star steak house one night, and then saying "There's no good steak anywhere else". Or if you date a super model in high school that doesn't mean you can't date a solid 8 later on in life.

Those 2 guys are once in a generation talents (although Shanny may have killed RG).

Exactly.

[O.city]

Hell, the draft with Manning, Rivers, Rothlisberger wasn't even regarded to be as good as last years.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah they do.

I will say that I think alot of the Red Flags from Geno have more to do with his defense and some things that weren't necessarily his fault, but he's the QB, that's inevitably on him.

Same with Barkley. He was considered a really high pick last year, yet doesn't have the same skillset? I think he would fit really well in a Reid system.

Wilson had a shit ton of off field stuff go on in Fayettville this year, that absolutely weren't his fault and the attitude stuff, IMO, is a little out of proportion.

So yeah, there isn't a slam dunk ala Luck, but thats hardly the case and great QB's get drafted alot.

There is a guy in there, and for the first time in a while, I think the Chiefs staff are competent and rather good at id'ing said guy.

I just can't take anyone seriously that's going to tell me Geno suffered because of his defense.

The team suffered because of his defense. If anything, his stats were inflated some because they threw so much to keep up.

If a bad defense impacts a QB in that way, then I would say his psyche has an issue.

But I don't put one ounce of stock in the defense mentally tarnished Geno.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Hell, the draft with Manning, Rivers, Rothlisberger wasn't even regarded to be as good as last years.

Another this.