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Old 06-13-2018, 12:22 PM  
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Trump has officially been nominated for the Nobel Prize for his summit with Kim Jong

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President Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize — for real this time — due to his participation in the Singapore summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, The Associated Press reports. Trump was nominated by two members of Norway's populist Progress Party, who said Trump has "taken a huge and important step in the direction of the disarmament, peace, and reconciliation between North and South Korea."

Earlier this year, 18 House Republicans nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work "to end the Korean War, denuclearize the Korean Peninsula, and bring peace to the region." Trump said this spring that "everyone thinks" he should win the Nobel, "but I would never say it."

Four American presidents have won the prize, including former President Barack Obama in 2009.

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Old 06-13-2018, 01:38 PM   #16
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So NK gets what it wants, a form of legitimacy on an international stage, and people ACTUALLY think Trump deserves an award?

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Old 06-13-2018, 01:39 PM   #17
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Obama didn't deserve it.
But he got it, proving your standards are too high.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:39 PM   #18
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So NK gets what it wants, a form of legitimacy on an international stage, and people ACTUALLY think Trump deserves an award?

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I don't give a shit if we make DPRK feel like they are legitimate as long as the price for that is de-nuclearization.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:40 PM   #19
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But he got it, proving your standards are too high.
If Trump gets DPRK to de-nuclearize, he deserves it, period. I think even liberals would agree to that.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:42 PM   #20
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Yep. Obama got it for being Obama……that's why that Nobel shit is just that - shit
To be fair, their reputation was on life support after giving one to algore for a slide show on unicorn science. Giving one to Hussein killed it.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:45 PM   #21
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I broke up a fight between my seven year old twins this morning. I figure since Obama got one . . .
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:09 PM   #22
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I don't give a shit if we make DPRK feel like they are legitimate as long as the price for that is de-nuclearization.
Great message to the world.

"If you want legitimacy don't build a functioning society. You can starve and oppress your people. Just build a nuclear bomb, threaten people, and you can sit at the big boy table."

Great message for the world. Build nukes, make threats, denuclearize = profit. I'm sure Iran is listening.

And that's a big 'IF'. Since the regime is notoriously full of shit.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:10 PM   #23
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Great message to the world.

"If you want legitimacy don't build a functioning society. You can starve and oppress your people. Just build a nuclear bomb, threaten people, and you can sit at the big boy table."

Great message for the world. I'm sure Iran is listening.
No. It isn’t. But it is the way the world works. What would you have preferred?
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:14 PM   #24
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No. It isn’t. But it is the way the world works. What would you have preferred?
I'll eat my ****ing hat if they actually denuclearize, and I was not fearful of their posturing. Any attack would lead directly to their own destruction and they knew that. Even if NK backs out, the message has been sent and recieved. Nuclear missiles and threats legitimate 3rd world hellholes.

Trump is being played like a ****ing clown. I don't accept that caving to the desires of dictators is 'the way the world works'. That's the way pre WWII europe worked.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:15 PM   #25
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Great message to the world.

"If you want legitimacy don't build a functioning society. You can starve and oppress your people. Just build a nuclear bomb, threaten people, and you can sit at the big boy table."

Great message for the world. Build nukes, make threats, denuclearize = profit. I'm sure Iran is listening.

And that's a big 'IF'. Since the regime is notoriously full of shit.
If he ends up dismantling his arsenal and starts working with the West to modernize his country and allows his people access to the outside world then I wouldn't argue with the means that got us there. That is a big if though.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:16 PM   #26
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Seems just a tad premature, but if DPRK actually ends up denuclearizing, completely justified.
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If he ends up dismantling his arsenal and starts working with the West to modernize his country and allows his people access to the outside world then I wouldn't argue with the means that got us there. That is a big if though.
It's an enormous if. Especially in regards to the way they treat the people under their guard.

The problem is WHEN they back out and fail to live up to their end the message will still be sent and recieved by every dictator on earth.
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It's an enormous if. Especially in regards to the way they treat the people under their guard.

The problem is WHEN they back out and fail to live up to their end the message will still be sent and recieved by every dictator on earth.
Those dictators are already assholes, so all this would mean would be nothing changes.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:25 PM   #29
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So NK gets what it wants, a form of legitimacy on an international stage, and people ACTUALLY think Trump deserves an award?

FFS
Seems like you are leaving out some VERY important facts here...
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Those dictators are already assholes, so all this would mean would be nothing changes.
The people of North Korea would still be suffering, politically imprisoned, and victims of extra judicial killings.

I'll bet the past 3 presidents could have gotten this deal on paper.
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