2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[Ceej]

Has the Twitter dipshit posted viable FA pitching options the Royals could have had other than Santana yet?

[alnorth]

To the surprise of absolutely no one, the Royals declined Soria's option. He is now a free agent.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by alnorth

To the surprise of absolutely no one, the Royals declined Soria's option. He is now a free agent.

Yes but both sides are willing to negotiate a new contract. I wouldn't have paid Soria the $7m-$8m he was due either.

[RockChalk]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Has the Twitter dipshit posted viable FA pitching options the Royals could have had other than Santana yet?

I'm sure he'll be in here soon enough to tell us who we missed out on and how we could have done better

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by sedated

More pessimism you all might have heard: Some guy on the radio this morning was speculating that prices for pitchers are going to skyrocket this offseason due to the new MLB TV contract. Guys who would have normally signed for “decent” deals are gonna get paid like aces.

Its probably a reason that some pitchers who were free agents last year signed one-year deals – they knew there could be a goldmine this year.

I don't know that I buy all of that.

I mean, Jake Peavy's deal (2 years, $29 million) doesn't seem crazy at all. And he was one of the 3-4 best guys on the market.

That's actually a considerable discount on what Peavy made a season ago.

I think we'll see some inflation, but not crazy, crazy numbers.

[DeezNutz]

Something must have bit me on Halloween because DM didn't sound too stupid in his interview on 810, and I was left with optimism for the rest of the off-season.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Something must have bit me on Halloween because DM didn't sound too stupid in his interview on 810, and I was left with optimism for the rest of the off-season.

It's the same schmoozing that he's given the Glass family for so long. Don't believe it.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Zeke

It's the same schmoozing that he's given the Glass family for so long. Don't believe it.

Yeah, the amount of evidence of his incompetence is damn near insurmountable.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Something must have bit me on Halloween because DM didn't sound too stupid in his interview on 810, and I was left with optimism for the rest of the off-season.

Well stop that shit right now mister!

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Originally Posted by alnorth

To the surprise of absolutely no one, the Royals declined Soria's option. He is now a free agent.

Good. Re-sign him for less if you can or let him go. After 3 TJ's and his up and down season before you can't pay that much.

[Toadkiller]

DM said that with Soria he wouldn't think that next year he could pitch anymore then 35-40 innings. Yeah you pay him the minimum to come in and not a penny more.

[alnorth]

wow. The SP pitching market is very thin, the Angels are unloading all this payroll to probably sign Greinke. We weren't getting him, but if he re-signs we're competing with other teams who would have wanted Greinke.

I hope we're in on Dan Haren. The Angels have until 9pm (11pm our time I think) Friday night to work out a trade for him. If we're willing to pay $12MM for Santana, we'd have to be willing to pay that for Haren as well, especially since we can save a ton of money by cutting Hoch. I presume we're probably one of the 12 teams on his no-trade list, but maybe Ervin Santana coming here will convince him to waive that.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by alnorth

wow. The SP pitching market is very thin, the Angels are unloading all this payroll to probably sign Greinke. We weren't getting him, but if he re-signs we're competing with other teams who would have wanted Greinke.

I hope we're in on Dan Haren. The Angels have until 9pm (11pm our time I think) Friday night to work out a trade for him. If we're willing to pay $12MM for Santana, we'd have to be willing to pay that for Haren as well, especially since we can save a ton of money by cutting Hoch. I presume we're probably one of the 12 teams on his no-trade list, but maybe Ervin Santana coming here will convince him to waive that.

Reports are that Haren's no trade list was reduced to 8 as part of his contract in 2011.

The Tigers and Twins have been on his no-trade list in the past, as well as the Yankees and Red Sox. I'm not sure it's a given the Royals are one of the 8 teams remaining on it.

[Reaper16]

http://www.royalsreview.com/2012/11/...ly-butler-does

Originally Posted by Nick Scott

Dayton Moore said this on the radio today:

"This last year...is the first time...that Billy Butler... became much, much more consistent hitting with runners in scoring position."

This is Billy Butlers actual WOBA with runners in scoring position by year:

2012 - .331

2011 - .378

2010 - .357

2009 - .358

2008 - .397

2007 - .349

Dayton Moore has absolutely no clue what his best hitter is doing and how he does it. I would expect to be destroyed as a blogger for making this statement. This man is the General Manager.

[Reaper16]

http://www.royalsreview.com/2012/11/...ly-butler-does

Originally Posted by Nick Scott

Dayton Moore said this on the radio today:

"This last year...is the first time...that Billy Butler... became much, much more consistent hitting with runners in scoring position."

This is Billy Butlers actual WOBA with runners in scoring position by year:

2012 - .331

2011 - .378

2010 - .357

2009 - .358

2008 - .397

2007 - .349

Dayton Moore has absolutely no clue what his best hitter is doing and how he does it. I would expect to be destroyed as a blogger for making this statement. This man is the General Manager.