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Old 02-15-2018, 05:53 PM  
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Sources: College hoops corruption case poised to take down top College BB Teams

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Sources: College hoops corruption case poised to take down Hall of Fame coaches, top programs, lottery picks

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NEW YORK – It has been five months since the FBI arrested 10 men in a sweeping federal probe into the underbelly of the basketball world. As the three ongoing criminal cases resulting from the investigation plod along, it’s increasingly unlikely there will be another wave of double-digit arrests.

More legal charges still could come, but what’s becoming increasingly clear as the discovery portion of the case comes to a close is that the breadth of potential NCAA rules violations uncovered is wide enough to fundamentally and indelibly alter the sport of college basketball.

The soundtrack to the three federal basketball corruption cases is essentially a ticking time bomb, which will inevitably explode. It will impact every major conference, Hall of Fame coaches, a score of current top players and some of the nation’s most distinguished and respected programs.

Multiple sources who’ve been briefed on the case and are familiar with the material obtained by feds told Yahoo Sports that the impact on the sport will be substantial and relentless. Sitting under protective order right now are the fruits of 330 days of monitoring activity by the feds, which one assistant US Attorney noted Thursday was “a voluminous amount of material.” That includes wiretaps from 4,000 intercepted calls and thousands of documents and bank records obtained from raids and confiscated computers, including those from notorious NBA agent Andy Miller.

“This goes a lot deeper in college basketball than four corrupt assistant coaches,” said a source who has been briefed on the details of the case. “When this all comes out, Hall of Fame coaches should be scared, lottery picks won’t be eligible to play and almost half of the 16 teams the NCAA showed on its initial NCAA tournament show this weekend should worry about their appearance being vacated.”

There’s a general expectation that this information will be released. It could come in trial, pre-trial motions or released by the government at some point. (No one is certain if they’ve agreed to eventually give it to the NCAA if it doesn’t go public.)

So how bad could be it? In terms of NCAA rules, multiple sources told Yahoo Sports that the material obtained threatens the fundamental structure and integrity of the sport, as there’s potentially as many 50 college basketball programs that could end up compromised in some way.
Among the documents expected to be in the federal government’s protection are the bank records of Miller, who bankrolled middle man, Christian Dawkins, who is at the center of two of the cases.

“If the NCAA is going to get Andy Miller’s bank records, God bless them, I don’t know what they’re going to do,” said another source with direct knowledge of the situation, chuckling at the thought. “You are better off changing the rules. The crazy part of this business is none of the kids are free.”

NCAA officials are staring at the prospect of a tournament with a winner that will likely be vacating its title – and many others eventually vacating their appearances. There’s a lingering mushroom cloud over the sport’s upcoming showcase event that won’t go away. The most fascinating and tricky variable here is time.

There’s a protective order on the evidence found in discovery in all three cases. Whether the information gets out in dribs and drabs or released at once, the consequences are expected to be severe.

The government is not compelled to release the information, according to Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York who now teaches at Columbia Law School. “Sometimes never,” he said when asked generally about the timing of the release of information under protective order. He added: “The main sources of release will be in the course of pretrial motions and trial, and/or as related investigations go overt.”
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:01 AM   #91
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So, they went through all the names of the players and just listed those schools lol
and they alphabetized them...!
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:09 AM   #92
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Elijah Johnson was listed as well, but I have to expect this was after he left KU, which I think was in 2013
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:07 PM   #93
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Names of the schools and players are coming out. 20 division 1 schools. Duke, Kentucky Michigan State etc. even WSU but, I don’t see KU’s name yet.

The documents tie some of the biggest names and programs in the sport to activity that appears to violate the NCAA’s amateurism rules. This could end up casting a pall over the NCAA tournament because of eligibility issues. (NCAA officials declined a request for comment.) There’s potential impermissible benefits and preferential treatment for players and families of players at Duke, North Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, Michigan State, USC, Alabama and a host of other schools. The documents link some of the sport’s biggest current stars – Michigan State’s*Miles Bridges, Alabama’s Collin Sexton and Duke’s Wendell Carter – to specific potential extra benefits for either the athletes or their family members. The amounts tied to players in the case range from basic meals to tens of thousands of dollars.
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:09 PM   #94
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"Sure they were all taking fake classes but so were the regular students so it wasn't an extra benefit to athletes."
This literally happens everywhere. I took a class called STRESS MANAGEMENT at Iowa. It was a total sham class. Everyone knew it. I only heard about it because I worked for the school at the fieldhouse. I knew how easy it was. 70% of the players were bball, football and womens basketball players. Jeff Horner (iowa football player) and Antwan Allen (iowa football player) were in the class if I remember right. We literally did nothing and got an A.

UNC basically just had easy classes, on purpose, so their athletes could get an easy A. There are tons of classes EVERYWHERE like that.
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:57 PM   #95
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Good thing the Shockers are clean
Actually, wasn't Van Vleet on the list of players who received compensation?
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:58 PM   #96
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Actually, wasn't Van Vleet on the list of players who received compensation?
That was one sweet deal they got. $1,000 for a player who ends up like Van Vleet is a damn good investment!
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:25 PM   #97
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KU is in the clear so far. EJ was after he graduated and Apples got a loan before Josh ever committed to KU. That could be a loan for any of the players on her AAU team, of which there are many. The clearinghouse cleared JJ and therefore everything before that is their responsibility.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:50 PM   #98
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KU is in the clear so far. EJ was after he graduated and Apples got a loan before Josh ever committed to KU. That could be a loan for any of the players on her AAU team, of which there are many. The clearinghouse cleared JJ and therefore everything before that is their responsibility.
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It's coming.
I doubt schools like Duke, UNC, Kansas and Kentucky have to pay kids $100,000 to come to school. I think you'll find that while kids at all schools are taking some loans from agents & shoe companies, the coaches at blue bloods aren't facilitating these payments. And any payments to kids at those schools appear to be much more minor compared to the Auburns, Mississippi State, Arizona's of the world who are actually paying players a fee to come play for them.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:44 PM   #100
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Looks like Sean Miller is on tape saying he will pay Ayton money to come there
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:45 PM   #101
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:47 AM   #104
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Of course they don't get paid the same. As part of the recruitment process, each coach can offer a recruit a salary based on what the market is.

I guess a school could offer a women's basketball player the same amount, don't see that happening.

And of course, expect the wannabes, small time programs to push for a socialist, salary cap with revenue sharing.

Players are on 2 year contracts and they don't have to sit out a year to switch school. Unless you get hit with the restricted free agent tag.
Title IX isn't that easily avoided.
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