Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 509

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

GloryDayz · 07-26-2013, 01:39 PM

I just wanted to let you all know you are awesome people and great fans...

Rock on doodes - best city and people ever!

GloryDayz · 07-26-2013, 01:40 PM

I just wanted to let you all know you are awesome people and great fans...

Rock on doodes - best city and people ever!

Kidd Lex · 07-26-2013, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I just wanted to let you all know you are awesome people and great fans...

Rock on doodes - best city and people ever!

Q

mr. tegu · 07-26-2013, 10:20 PM

That's four in a row!

Sure-Oz · 07-26-2013, 11:54 PM

This would be the good time for that 15-5 stretch that GMDM keeps saying this team can run...

Fansy the Famous Bard · 07-27-2013, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

This would be the good time for that 15-5 stretch that GMDM keeps saying this team can run...

Or a 20-0? Please... let us bet that team.

Edit: damnit forgot about wade davies.

Three7s · 07-27-2013, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Fire the clown yesterday.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I just wanted to let you all know you are awesome people and great fans...

Rock on doodes - best city and people ever!

I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 06:51 AM

Wade Davies tonight. Ice pick ,please.

GloryDayz · 07-27-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Wade Davies tonight. Ice pick ,please.

They need to give him the hook as quickly as the first earned run crosses the plate.

SPATCH · 07-27-2013, 07:40 AM

David Lough is starting to remind me of Aaron Guiel in 2003.

Guiel seemed like a suitable temporary solution in the outfield until we could bring in somebody better. But, months later, we all slowly started to realize that he was one of the most important players on the team.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

They need to give him the hook as quickly as the first earned run crosses the plate.

A better option would be to not run him out there in the first place. But, I don't know how to replace him right now. I don't have that answer. Wish I did.

Nightfyre · 07-27-2013, 07:43 AM

Danny Duffy should be up already unless there is some mlb service time issue. I would also be fasttracking zimmer. Stretching out will smith is another viable option for 2014. Also, we could look at stretching out coleman and/or crow next year.

GloryDayz · 07-27-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

A better option would be to not run him out there in the first place. But, I don't know how to replace him right now. I don't have that answer. Wish I did.

There is no answer right now, and to complicate matters we have the DM/NY stubbornness thing to deal with. That being said, as they approach .500 again, one has to wonder if they are might be tired of the floggings they get when their favorite players blow it (again). That doesn't mean they have an alternative as a starter, but it might mean that the hook might come much sooner. It'll add wear on the bullpen, but if it's for one game (and they bring somebody up), it might be worth it.

BlackHelicopters · 07-27-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

There is no answer right now, and to complicate matters we have the DM/NY stubbornness thing to deal with. That being said, as they approach .500 again, one has to wonder if they are might be tired of the floggings they get when their favorite players blow it (again). That doesn't mean they have an alternative as a starter, but it might mean that the hook might come much sooner. It'll add wear on the bullpen, but if it's for one game (and they bring somebody up), it might be worth it.

True enough. I will just avert my eyes tonight while watching Kyle, I mean Wade. My bad.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1870308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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