#3 overall pick... a 20 year history

**AustinChief** · 02-08-2009, 05:27 PM

08 Matt Ryan
07 Joe Thomas
06 Vince Young
05 Braylon Edwards
04 Larry Fitzgerald
03 Andre Johnson
02 Joey Harrington
01 Gerard Warren
00 Chris Samuels
99 Akili Smith
98 Andre Wadsworth
97 Shawn Springs
96 Simeon Rice
95 Steve McNair
94 Heath Shuler
93 Garrison Hearst
92 Sean Gilbert
91 Bruce Pickens
90 Cortez Kennedy
89 Barry Sanders

Draw your own conclusions. As for myself, if this list is a good indicator, I would go DT, DE, OT or WR... unfortunately we don't have a need that pressing at OT and the DE, DT WR prospects are iffy that high...

I am not in the anti-QB at all cost crowd.. I just really am not sold on THESE two QBs... esp. Stafford...

**The Bad Guy** · 02-08-2009, 05:28 PM

12 out of 20 picks have been really good.

Marco Polo · 02-08-2009, 05:52 PM

To be honest, this may be the first draft that I really don't have a preference on where we draft yet. Last year I was heavy on OL/DL and that happened. We have a lot of holes on our team so I just want the BPA period.

**the Talking Can** · 02-08-2009, 05:54 PM

there are no conclusions to draw

it's just a list of picks....

**AustinChief** · 02-08-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

there are no conclusions to draw

it's just a list of picks....

the list = data - - - from said data... draw your conclusions...

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2009, 06:11 PM

Three Pro Bowls QB's, one average QB and two awful QB's.

That's a pretty good percentage with the third pick for 15 years.

**Saul Good** · 02-08-2009, 06:11 PM

Interesting trend. From this list, we can expect our pick to be young, most likely male, and with some college education.

**the Talking Can** · 02-08-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

the list = data - - - from said data... draw your conclusions...

it is incapable of meaning anything other than "player x was drafted with the 3rd pick"....

not trying to be an ass, but you can't draw any conclusions about the relative merits of drafting a position with the 3rd pick from this...there is no causal relationship between the selection # and the player's success, when limited to a single draft position....

comparing a position to it's success ratio across all rounds of the draft gives you "data" that can be used to draw conclusions....this doesn't

not even sure why i care, so i'll leave you all to your conclusion drawing,,,,

Hootie · 02-08-2009, 06:19 PM

I think the Talking Can is a total douche bag.

That is all...

**doomy3** · 02-08-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Three Pro Bowls QB's, one average QB and two awful QB's.

That's a pretty good percentage with the third pick for 15 years.

I would love to hear how you came to those conclusions...

Who was the average QB?

I guess you would also be happy with a "Pro Bowl" QB like Vince Young too?

And are you anointing Matt Ryan as a Pro Bowl QB?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I would love to hear how you came to those conclusions...

Who was the average QB?

I guess you would also be happy with a "Pro Bowl" QB like Vince Young too?

And are you anointing Matt Ryan as a Pro Bowl QB?

Harrington: Average.

McNair: Super Bowl QB, former MVP.

Matt Ryan: Rookie of the year, (short on Pro Bowl in year one).

Vince Young: Pro Bowl 2006.

And who the **** cares anyway? It's just a spot. It's not like it's a "Jinxed" number to picking at or something ridiculous.

**doomy3** · 02-08-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Harrington: Average.

McNair: Super Bowl QB, former MVP.

Matt Ryan: Rookie of the year, (short on Pro Bowl in year one).

Vince Young: Pro Bowl 2006.

So, I guess you would be happy with any of those players at #3 then. Is that what you're saying?

Ultra Peanut · 02-08-2009, 06:49 PM

BUT MOMMY I'M SCAAAAAARED OF DRAFTING A QB

Mecca · 02-08-2009, 06:53 PM

You know what conclusion I draw from that?

You don't take a OLB with the pick.

**AustinChief** · 02-08-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

You know what conclusion I draw from that?

You don't take a OLB with the pick.

see, there is a smart conclusion!

Talking Can... there is plenty of data here to draw a number of conclusions...

for example, you don't draft OLB, kicker, punter etc at this position...

02-08-2009, 05:27 PM
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $2719112	#3 overall pick... a 20 year history 08 Matt Ryan 07 Joe Thomas 06 Vince Young 05 Braylon Edwards 04 Larry Fitzgerald 03 Andre Johnson 02 Joey Harrington 01 Gerard Warren 00 Chris Samuels 99 Akili Smith 98 Andre Wadsworth 97 Shawn Springs 96 Simeon Rice 95 Steve McNair 94 Heath Shuler 93 Garrison Hearst 92 Sean Gilbert 91 Bruce Pickens 90 Cortez Kennedy 89 Barry Sanders Draw your own conclusions. As for myself, if this list is a good indicator, I would go DT, DE, OT or WR... unfortunately we don't have a need that pressing at OT and the DE, DT WR prospects are iffy that high... I am not in the anti-QB at all cost crowd.. I just really am not sold on THESE two QBs... esp. Stafford...
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