Non-QB Options at #1 Overall - Page 3

Direckshun · 03:00 PM

I think it's worth having this conversation this offseason.

It doesn't make overwhelming sense for the Chiefs to go with a QB #1 overall. I would argue it makes a lot of sense, but it's not the clear-cut obvious move this year.

Mainly that's because this is a top-heavy QB class with no elite QB. There's a very good chance an Andy Dalton sits at the top of the second round.

I'm not necessarily advocating what's what we should do (yet), but here are our nonQB options at QB.

Secondary, RBs, ILBs, WRs, interior OL -- none of these positions deserve the #1 overall pick, unless the WR in question has elite speed. The best WR in my opinion this year is California's Keena Allen, who does not have elite speed.

Passrushers -- I think these are worth discussing because we don't know our defensive scheme next year -- if we are staying in a 3-4, there's no real reason to look here. But if we're going to a 4-3, where Justin Houston is completely unproven, it might be worth a look. Bjoern Werner is the player that jumps off the page, and plays with such immense strength that he's a very safe player for the NFL Draft, where you always worry about strength in DL prospects. I also like Dion Jordan of Oregon, Jarvin Jones of Georgia, and the passrushers on both sides of the LSU line.

Defensive tackle -- This team needs help up front. Dorsey is likely gone, Tyson Jackson will either be retained at a much lower salary or he's gone as well (likely). That leaves us with three huge linemen in Dontari Poe (who I think could move to DE), Jerrell Powe, and Shaun Smith. Powe and Smith are pluggers, and Poe is a penetrator. This team needs a top-notch OL penetrator, and that's exactly the kind of player that the #1 pick was designed for if a QB isn't on hand. Star Lotulelei of Utah and Sheldon Richardson of Missouri make the absolute most sense here (I think Johnathan Hankins and John Jenkins project more to be pluggers, which aren't worth the penultimate pick in the draft).

This is my way-too-early endorsement for the 2013 draft: if there is not a QB that jumps off the page and commands attention as a potential Super Bowl winning QB, as I believe there is not, the Chiefs should hold off 'til the second round, even trade back into the 1st for one, and save their biggest and best pick for the defensive lineman they believe will keep offensive coorindators up at night.

4-3 defense:

Hali
Lotulelei/Richardson and Poe
Powe and Smith
Houston

3-4:

OLB: Hali
Lotulelei/Richadson
Powe
Poe
OLB: Houston

Tackles -- Which brings me here. There is #1 overall worth talent here, and they're both in A&M. But I believe the Chiefs will bring back Branden Albert (which of course, we don't know until a new coach is brought in). Even if they don't bring in Albert, you can probably suffer through a year seeing what you have in Donald Stephenson. Getting elite DL talent is that important.

Sorter · 01-05-2013, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

A more Drunk Stafford.

Stafford was quite the shit faced party guy at Georgia.

He still is.

htismaqe · 01-06-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Argo

As long as we come out of this draft with bray as our qbotf, I'm happy. Doesn't have to be number one. You take Jones number one, then trade the house to come back for bray and I'll sell my kids for season tickets.

You're putting all of your eggs in the basket that's most likely to fall apart?

**RealSNR** · 01-06-2013, 03:38 PM

If Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley, and Aaron Murray all died in a fire before the draft, I would have the Chiefs take Demontre Moore. And that's only assuming they stay in the 3-4 and upgrade to an aggressive 1-gap type of scheme. Moore is such a beast and has the size to play the way JJ Watt does. The Chiefs really need to tap that.

Provided all those QBs stay alive, however, we need to take one of them. Specifically, we need to take Geno.

ForeverChiefs58 · 01-06-2013, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Non-QB Options at #1 Overall .

You lost me right after I read this part.

The biggest hole gets addressed with the #1 overall unless your name is Failey McFailureson, who we just sent packing.

crazycoffey · 01-07-2013, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Ark QB Tyler Wilson will be there in the 2nd rd.

If that's the case I'd go

1. Mante Teo ILB
2. Tyler Wilson QB
3. Da'Rick Rogers WR
3. Landry Jones QB
4. Tyrann Mathieu CB
5. BPA
6. BPA
7. BPA

FA
Ed Reed S
Veteran QB

Sorry man, like your two but your one just took a HUGE credibility hit. Wait, what am I saying, you're a dick to me almost all the time. LOL you don't know crap.

Crush · 01-16-2013, 12:13 AM

Tyler Wilson will not make it out of the top ten.

12-30-2012, 02:52 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4403447	Non-QB Options at #1 Overall I think it's worth having this conversation this offseason. It doesn't make overwhelming sense for the Chiefs to go with a QB #1 overall. I would argue it makes a lot of sense, but it's not the clear-cut obvious move this year. Mainly that's because this is a top-heavy QB class with no elite QB. There's a very good chance an Andy Dalton sits at the top of the second round. I'm not necessarily advocating what's what we should do (yet), but here are our nonQB options at QB. Secondary, RBs, ILBs, WRs, interior OL -- none of these positions deserve the #1 overall pick, unless the WR in question has elite speed. The best WR in my opinion this year is California's Keena Allen, who does not have elite speed. Passrushers -- I think these are worth discussing because we don't know our defensive scheme next year -- if we are staying in a 3-4, there's no real reason to look here. But if we're going to a 4-3, where Justin Houston is completely unproven, it might be worth a look. Bjoern Werner is the player that jumps off the page, and plays with such immense strength that he's a very safe player for the NFL Draft, where you always worry about strength in DL prospects. I also like Dion Jordan of Oregon, Jarvin Jones of Georgia, and the passrushers on both sides of the LSU line. Defensive tackle -- This team needs help up front. Dorsey is likely gone, Tyson Jackson will either be retained at a much lower salary or he's gone as well (likely). That leaves us with three huge linemen in Dontari Poe (who I think could move to DE), Jerrell Powe, and Shaun Smith. Powe and Smith are pluggers, and Poe is a penetrator. This team needs a top-notch OL penetrator, and that's exactly the kind of player that the #1 pick was designed for if a QB isn't on hand. Star Lotulelei of Utah and Sheldon Richardson of Missouri make the absolute most sense here (I think Johnathan Hankins and John Jenkins project more to be pluggers, which aren't worth the penultimate pick in the draft). This is my way-too-early endorsement for the 2013 draft: if there is not a QB that jumps off the page and commands attention as a potential Super Bowl winning QB, as I believe there is not, the Chiefs should hold off 'til the second round, even trade back into the 1st for one, and save their biggest and best pick for the defensive lineman they believe will keep offensive coorindators up at night. 4-3 defense: Hali Lotulelei/Richardson and Poe Powe and Smith Houston 3-4: OLB: Hali Lotulelei/Richadson Powe Poe OLB: Houston Tackles -- Which brings me here. There is #1 overall worth talent here, and they're both in A&M. But I believe the Chiefs will bring back Branden Albert (which of course, we don't know until a new coach is brought in). Even if they don't bring in Albert, you can probably suffer through a year seeing what you have in Donald Stephenson. Getting elite DL talent is that important. Last edited by Direckshun; 12-30-2012 at 03:00 PM..
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