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Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- When you're 6-0 and coming off a 2-14 season, there really shouldn't be any complaining.

There can't be a football fan or scout or executive anywhere on the planet who could have forecast the amazing turnaround general manager John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have conducted with the Chiefs -- certainly not to the extent of a 6-0 start.

But -- and isn't there always a but? -- there is one small area of concern that even Reid himself continues to address: a sluggish offense.

The Chiefs are 25th in the NFL in offense, chugging along at just 326 yards per game, a remarkably low figure for a team unbeaten this far into the season.

No one is more aware of the offense's struggles than Reid. The offense is his baby.

"Listen, I'm never going to make excuses," Reid said Monday. "That's not how we roll here. But the reality of it is we're a little young, but we have to get better.

"I see some phases we're getting better at. But I've got to do a better job of getting these guys in the right position to succeed. We've all got a little piece of the pie to get things right. We're learning on the fly, but we're going to get better."

The Chiefs likely will have to. Fans in this area have seen this script before. They've seen the Chiefs' teams of the 1990s soar through the regular season on the strength of their overpowering defenses and elite special teams.

Then those fans saw the same teams misfire in the postseason, mainly because the offense couldn't step up and contribute when it had to.

To avoid revisiting that script, the Chiefs must get more production out of quarterback Alex Smith, whose numbers keep sinking.

Smith is 26th in the league in passing yards at just 221.7 per game. He's also 20th in the league with a passer rating of 79.8.

But if you're looking for Reid to point any fingers toward Smith, you'll have a long wait.

Reid knows what kind of team he has. He knows, outside of Jamaal Charles and at times Dwayne Bowe, he doesn't have an explosive offense.

Reid also knows you can win in this league simply by not messing up, and letting the opponent beat itself. The Chiefs are No. 1 in the league in turnover ratio at plus-12, and don't have the appearance of a team that will beat itself anytime soon.

"Not turning the ball over is very important to us," Reid said, "especially when you have a solid defense like we have and the kicking game we have, both from our punter and our kicker."

In that respect, Smith is giving Reid all he needs, even if the offense has that familiar conservative look of the '90s. After all, there is a fine line between wanting more offensive production, and opening the offense up so much that more turnovers occur. Reid isn't likely to stand for that.

"You want to always start off by protecting the ball," Reid said. "There's no fine line there for me. ...

"Alex is doing that. And we need to point out the way Alex continues to manage this offense."

And that is the key in Reid's mind: He simply wants Smith to manage the game, which also includes managing the different personalities in the huddle.

"We've got a guy at quarterback, this kid, he's a stud," Reid said. "The things he does for this team is unbelievable. He's making people around him better. He takes the blame for things -- that's what good leaders do.

"At the same time, he's able to teach and explain to other guys with a clear head. Those are valuable things for us as coaches to see. I'm very pleased with the job (Smith) is doing."

In Reid's mind, let the other quarterbacks around the league possess the pretty passing numbers; Reid will take the ultimate one that counts. That is, for now, 6-0.

Still, Reid also has been around long enough to know that his offense will have to improve as the season wears on, even if it's just incrementally.

And that will be up to Reid himself as the play-caller and architect of the offense, something Reid has mentioned almost every week.

"I think we have done some good things, but we have plenty to work on," Reid said. "I don't think I've done a very good job of putting guys in position to make plays. That has been obvious at times. I have to do a better job."



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Old 10-16-2013, 08:54 PM   #136
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Until he throws the inevitable back breaking INT
Hard to have too many back breaking INTs if you're blowing teams out due to the combination of a great offense and an elite defense.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:55 PM   #137
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I'm not a fan of Romo either. I wouldn't have signed him were he available. But that wasn't the question.
ok, well yes.....there have been a couple of games where Alex came through in the clutch. hit a key pass or TD in crunch time.

Romo has had a 13 win season and an 11 win season. So he is capable of heading a playoff team. Other than that, hes been pretty mediocre as far as win/losses.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:56 PM   #138
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But in the end, as he's proven so many times, it doesn't matter how many yards and TD's, he inevitably costs Dallas the big win.
51 points.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:00 PM   #139
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You're not going to win many games when you give up 51. He's sort of the one legged-man that lost the ass-kicking contest.

Here's an interesting question to ponder: what would the Chiefs record be with Tony Romo? Would he have cost them games to this point because of his predilection towards head-scratching picks? Or is the defense good enough that it wouldn't matter? Would the offense be scoring more? And have we won games because of key plays by Alex Smith that could only be made by Alex Smith? Has he been a difference maker in the 6-0 start beyond "he doesn't turn it over"?
Considering they'd actually have an offense that can move the ball and put points on the board rather than whatever it is they employ for an offense right now, it's pretty safe to assume they'd be 6-0 with a top 10 QB (whether it be Romo or anybody else in that range).

But maybe I'm just ignoring Alex Smith's incredible leadership qualities that allow him to exude confidence and provide the rest of the team with a winning mindset.
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Romo has has a 13 win season and an 11 win season. So he is capable of heading a playoff team. Other than that, hes been pretty mediocre as far as win/losses.
You mean Dallas has been. Teams win football games, not players.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:08 PM   #142
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You mean Dallas has been. Teams win football games, not players.
Yea, i agree. Team sport, no doubt. Romo carries them most of the time. But he does have a tendency to choke at the wrong times. He would have been better off in a stronger organization. Dallas has been thoroughly mediocre for 17 years because the GM refuses to fire himself. Not that i care. : )
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You mean Dallas has been. Teams win football games, not players.
Bullshit.

Romo has been directly responsive for their losses.

You're talking out of your ass.
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Romo is the most talented choke-artist in the league.

No wonder Hootie loves him.
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Ive been very disappointed in the O-line. It feels like almost every pass play Smith is under pressure or rushed.
The game started with a sack. And he looked scared in the pocket after that.

I thought he settled down a little in the 2nd half. Much better. Maybe it was the O-line getting their shit together, but it was better.

And of course the D just got nuts.
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You're not going to win many games when you give up 51. He's sort of the one legged-man that lost the ass-kicking contest.

Here's an interesting question to ponder: what would the Chiefs record be with Tony Romo? Would he have cost them games to this point because of his predilection towards head-scratching picks? Or is the defense good enough that it wouldn't matter? Would the offense be scoring more? And have we won games because of key plays by Alex Smith that could only be made by Alex Smith? Has he been a difference maker in the 6-0 start beyond "he doesn't turn it over"?
Romo has had Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Bill Callahan and Jason Garrett in his ear for the past decade. That's a pretty goddamned good list of coaches, all of whom have been a part of Super Bowl teams and offenses.

Romo is who he is: A QB that shines without pressure but breaks in mid-air when pressure is applied.

Everyone has seen it again and again and again and again.
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Bullshit.

Romo has been directly responsive for their losses.

You're talking out of your ass.
Laughable stuff from you as usual. Dallas is a flawed team and has been for as long as Romo has been there. That's an irrefutable fact. There's nothing he could have done to make them a SB contender, nor was he at fault for his team allowing 51 ****ing points a week and a half ago against the Denver Broncos.

Romo has some flaws himself (which is why he's not considered to be in the true upper echelon despite his elite stats/skills), but he's on a completely different level as a QB than a guy like Alex Smith.
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Considering they'd actually have an offense that can move the ball and put points on the board rather than whatever it is they employ for an offense right now, it's pretty safe to assume they'd be 6-0 with a top 10 QB (whether it be Romo or anybody else in that range).

But maybe I'm just ignoring Alex Smith's incredible leadership qualities that allow him to exude confidence and provide the rest of the team with a winning mindset.
You're definitely ignoring the fact that Romo shits himself at every turn.

Did you happen to miss their 13-3 season in which they got there on the back of Wade Phillips defense, only to shit the bed in the playoffs?
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Ive been very disappointed in the O-line. It feels like almost every pass play Smith is under pressure or rushed.

It has seemed that way

I think the O line and their struggles is part of why Alex struggled against Oakland. He let it get in his head and he was rushing at times when he didn't need to rush so he was missing throws. That's not an excuse for Alex it's his fault he let that get in his head not the O lines.

Alex hasn't been as bad as some make it sound. The haters are jumping on his horrible game against Oakland but go look at the game logs. He has put up a lot of yards. What the haters have neglected to bring up is his running the ball. If you count that he has been over 300 yards of offense twice and over 250 yards twice more. He hasn't been great by any means and there are for sure things he has to get better at. But he hasn't been as bad as people are making it out to be.
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Romo has had Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Bill Callahan and Jason Garrett in his ear for the past decade. That's a pretty goddamned good list of coaches, all of whom have been a part of Super Bowl teams and offenses.

Romo is who he is: A QB that shines without pressure but breaks in mid-air when pressure is applied.

Everyone has seen it again and again and again and again.
If it weren't for one SB win, clowns like you probably would be saying the same thing about Peyton Manning.
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