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**DaFace** · 09:37 AM

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

Discus.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-05-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

This site doesn't champion shit. You don't champion shit. You don't speak for shit. And you ain't bombing shit.

If the Chiefs can have hispter douchebag fans, you are just such a 'fan.' Except, not content to flip your bangs and mutter, you think you are swinging a baby-arm around the joint while you're just swiveling your hips and letting your vienna sausage sway.

I'm a swingin' a massive kielbasa of rage, buddy boy, so step right up and take a bite. CP belongs to the darkside, bitch; it is what is.
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Marcellus · 05-05-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I'm a swingin' a massive kielbasa of rage, buddy boy, so step right up and take a bite. CP belongs to the darkside, bitch; it is what is.
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I guess you have a hard time understanding poll results huh?

Not a shocker they probably haven't got that far in your 7th grade curriculum.

Chiefshrink · 05-05-2013, 10:19 AM

"Balanced" should read "Realist"

suzzer99 · 05-05-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I'm a swingin' a massive kielbasa of rage, buddy boy, so step right up and take a bite. CP belongs to the darkside, bitch; it is what is.
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**Baby Lee** · 05-05-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I'm a swingin' a massive kielbasa of rage, buddy boy, so step right up and take a bite. CP belongs to the darkside, bitch; it is what is.
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Of course your dick is Polish. Why should it be smarter than you? It's still a nubbin.

Vehemence doesn't erase stupidity, it barely manages to slightly obscure it.

Setsuna · 05-05-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

No doubt you imagined it and then got off afterwards. Nice try to deflect.

patteeu · 05-05-2013, 03:26 PM

Now that we've had this discussion about true fans, someone should start a thread where we can talk about the false fan phenomenon we have around here. I'm not sure what keeps them around.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-05-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Now that we've had this discussion about true fans, someone should start a thread where we can talk about the false fan phenomenon we have around here. I'm not sure what keeps them around.

Pure disgruntled dissatisfaction with the Chiefs. And cool gifs.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-05-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Of course your dick is Polish. Why should it be smarter than you? It's still a nubbin.

Vehemence doesn't erase stupidity, it barely manages to slightly obscure it.

When was the last time you even SAW your dick, you fat mother****er?
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Hootie · 05-05-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Different account. Eradicated by one Bob Dole.
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I wish you would just eradicate yourself already.

**Baby Lee** · 05-05-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

When was the last time you even SAW your dick, you fat mother****er?
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Geechy Guy, ladies and gentlemen, Geechy Guy. He'll be here all week. Tip your waitresses.

How does it feel to be a worse football fan than Alex Smith is a QB?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-05-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I wish you would just eradicate yourself already.

Likewise.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-05-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Geechy Guy, ladies and gentlemen, Geechy Guy. He'll be here all week. Tip your waitresses.

How does it feel to be a worse football fan than Alex Smith is a QB?

Go play whack-a-turd in a minefield please...
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**Baby Lee** · 05-05-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Go play whack-a-turd in a minefield please...
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I don't even know what minefield you are in right now.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-05-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I don't even know what minefield you are in right now.

Wawwwk-wawwk-wawwk-waaaaaaaaaa.
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View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer	7	2.44%
2 - Optimist	85	29.62%
3 - Balanced	116	40.42%
4 - Pessimist	67	23.34%
5 - Naysayer	8	2.79%
Generic Alternate Zresponse	4	1.39%
Voters: 287. You may not vote on this poll

05-03-2013, 09:30 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2136899	Let's talk about "true fans" Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made. The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days: 1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this. 2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel. 3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out. 4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do. 5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success. Discus. Last edited by DaFace; 05-03-2013 at 09:37 AM..
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