Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 157

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

eazyb81 · 04-03-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That's Jason Parks' opinion... He actually has said Mondesi could develop MORE power than Profar as he fills out.

MORE power than a guy predicted to be a .300/20/100 R/30 SB player.

Do you have a BP membership?

No, but I've read a handful of reports on each of them and the comps kind of jump out at you.

We'll see how they develop, but we may have struck gold with these two.

Deberg_1990 · 04-03-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Everyone thought he was 2-3 years older than reported (still dogs him)

My BIL played basketball at Fort Osage at the same time Pujols was there. He claims he was an absolute beast in the gym, and yes, most believed he was older than he claimed even then.

duncan_idaho · 04-03-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

No, but I've read a handful of reports on each of them and the comps kind of jump out at you.

We'll see how they develop, but we may have struck gold with these two.

Yeah, it looks that way.

It was Almonte/Teheren that made me ask. Parks drew heavily on those comparisons. And not just because of the fastball/change combo. Apparently, the arm action (clean and easy, with some whip) and body composition really jumps out at you, too.

Funny that these two are the studs, when Elier Hernandez and Cheslor Cuthbert are the international signees who got all the attention.

**Dartgod** · 04-03-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Anyone want to throw up a game thread? This week, I was only planning on doing it Saturday/Sunday since I'll be here for those games from the beginning.

What the hell, I'll do it. Might as well find out early on if I have any mojo this season.

stonedstooge · 04-03-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

What the hell, I'll do it. Might as well find out early on if I have any mojo this season.

Start a run my man

**alnorth** · 04-03-2013, 06:03 PM

Our 2013 draft bonus budget for our 11 picks in the first 10 rounds has been determined: $8,290,700. (after the 10th round, no player can receive over 100k without incurring penalties)

We can't spend more than 5% over that without incurring serious penalties, which is about $8.7MM.

duncan_idaho · 04-04-2013, 08:10 AM

Update on Lamb:

I sent Parks a question about him regarding his velocity in his last few starts... BP had two guys at his last minor league start and they didn't have him higher than 89 on their gun.

Not good.

It's still possible the arm strength is in the process of coming back, but very odd for it to be taking this long.

They specifically mentioned his arm speed looked slow. It's possible Lamb is sacrificing velocity for location at this point in time, or that the foot injury last year slowed his build-up.

Deberg_1990 · 04-04-2013, 09:18 AM

This is a cool new column in the Star. Lee Judge. I guess hes breaking down every game?

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/03...ood-pitch.html

Great Expectations · 04-04-2013, 10:43 AM

Will Ned throw at Longoria?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...orias-comments

MIAdragon · 04-04-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Will Ned throw at Longoria?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...orias-comments

Strongside · 04-04-2013, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Will Ned throw at Longoria?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...orias-comments

We can only hope so.

SnakeXJones · 04-04-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Update on Lamb:

I sent Parks a question about him regarding his velocity in his last few starts... BP had two guys at his last minor league start and they didn't have him higher than 89 on their gun.

Not good.

It's still possible the arm strength is in the process of coming back, but very odd for it to be taking this long.

They specifically mentioned his arm speed looked slow. It's possible Lamb is sacrificing velocity for location at this point in time, or that the foot injury last year slowed his build-up.

He was throwing in mid 80s I see that as a big improvement

**gblowfish** · 04-04-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Will Ned throw at Longoria?

He'll let Hoechaser throw him a belt high change up middle plate...

Sassy Squatch · 04-04-2013, 02:17 PM

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