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Old 08-08-2015, 09:31 AM  
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Gretz: Observations of One-on-One Battles on the Chiefs Line of Scrimmage

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Observations of one-on-one battles on Chiefs’ line of scrimmage
By Bob Gretz

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. – A single practice on any given day during a football season is but a snapshot that in the end helps make up what becomes a feature film of a team’s season.

Making evaluations and assumptions from a single practice like the Chiefs training camp session on Friday morning at Missouri Western State University is foolhardy.

But within the camp practices, there are moments when the skills of individual players show themselves.

No drill makes that happen more than the one-on-one matchup between linemen in pass protection and the pass rush. Once full pads go on in camp, these mano a mano battles are every day affairs.

In Friday’s practice, the Chiefs had 50 snaps of pass pro-pass rush. Here’s a look at what went down in those competitions.

Offense

The offensive line must block a pass rusher without help from mates, which seldom happens during a game. But it’s during these plays where the blockers individual skills are visible.

The most proficient pass protectors Friday were left tackle Eric Fisher and left guard Ben Grubbs.

Both men won three of their four chances against the Chiefs defense. Against defensive end Mike Catapano, Fisher struggled on his first opportunity. From that point, he handled outside linebackers Frank Zombo and Josh Martin, along with defensive tackle Charles Tuaau.

Grubbs was dominating in his three victories, handling Tuaau and defensive ends Vaughn Martin and Mike DeVito. Only defensive tackle Jaye Howard got the better of Grubbs, beating him on his outside shoulder with a nice rip move.

Right guard Jeff Allen had a good practice as well in pass protection. Allen split two snaps against DeVito and made a good adjustment with his hands in stopping rookie defensive tackle Rakeem Nunez-Roches.

Going into camp, the question marks on the Chiefs offensive line were at center and right tackle. So far Donald Stephenson has been the No. 1 option at right tackle, but he struggled during Friday’s practice.

Against Allen Bailey, Stephenson got his hands on the defensive end but was not able to anchor himself and was driven back into the pocket. Linebacker Dezman Moses beat Stephenson to the inside, as did Vaughn Martin. Against Josh Martin, he lost the hand-to-hand battle. On his last snap in protection, Stephenson saw outside linebacker Justin Houston beat him to the outside.

At center, Eric Kush had six snaps and won half of those. Kush was beaten badly by Howard on his first chance, but came back later and handled the big defensive tackle. He had a pair of victories against defensive tackle Hebron Fangupo, but was beaten badly by Tuaau on a straight-up bull rush.

Among the backups, rookie Mitch Morse worked at right guard and center, winning twice. Right guard Zach Fulton won two of his snaps. Working at left guard, Paul Fanaika had two good snaps, followed by two not so good efforts.

Defense

Catapano and Howard were the best pass rushers on the field for the Chiefs defense in Friday’s work. The bigger and leaner Catapano came on the rush from end and inside at tackle. He beat Fisher to the outside, ran over tackle Jarrod Pughsley with a bull rush and beat Fanaika with an inside move.

Howard showed great quickness and technique when he beat Kush with a swim move, leaving the center grabbing at air. He used the same move to beat right guard Marcus Reed. Howard was the only rusher to dent Grubbs’ day, with a move on the left shoulder of the left guard that gave him a leverage advantage.

Vaughn Martin and Tuaau both had some nice snaps bringing pressure inside. Bailey had several victories, but also was stopped cold other times.

Undrafted rookie linebacker Sage Harold showed he has pass rush skills, with a quick first step and a powerful first contact with the blocker. He beat offensive tackle Tavon Rooks to the outside and got inside against Pughsley.

Overall, it was good work for both the offense and defense.

They’ll do it all again on Saturday and in just about every practice until January.
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:34 PM   #16
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Funny how mentioning Catapano as a potential impact player before training camp would get you laughed at on CP. He's going to be a stud in our nickel package.
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The Texans and Redskins are having a joint practice in Richmond, VA today. They've already had like three different fights break out..

Anyway, immediately before the first fight Vince Wilfork drove the Skins' center about 4 yards deep into the backfield.

Wilfork and Watt are going to fist our offense. It's going to be a bloodbath.
I can't argue with that actually. I'll take the under on that game
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Funny how mentioning Catapano as a potential impact player before training camp would get you laughed at on CP. He's going to be a stud in our nickel package.
I get abused here about Big Cat regularly....but i understand it 100%. People want seeing before believing. If it hasn't happened yet for a 7th round draft pick, then it won't happen...its logical and makes sense...thats what 20 years of no playoff wins does. Its that simple. I've been talking him up since he was drafted and in 2 years he has barely seen the field but I've stuck to my guns.

I like that now little video leaks and reports are coming out backing up what I've known for awhile...as long as he stays healthy this guy is gonna make a BIG impact! If Howard keeps improving and hopefully Poe gets back so we can get some more quality depth and rotation along this D Line to keep em all fresh, then look out. An interior pass rushing presence to go along with Houston and Hali is damn scary! With DJ, Devito (and maybe now Berry too) back, bigger and stronger versions of Bailey, Howard and Catapano. They have the potential to be GREAT. But like everything else in the NFL staying healthy is the key. If the O Line can protect Smith this team can be special.
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The Texans and Redskins are having a joint practice in Richmond, VA today. They've already had like three different fights break out..

Anyway, immediately before the first fight Vince Wilfork drove the Skins' center about 4 yards deep into the backfield.

Wilfork and Watt are going to fist our offense. It's going to be a bloodbath.
Not saying you are wrong, but this reminds me of Clay the entire week leading up to the NE game.
"Wilfork is going to destroy this team"

I seem to remember him as the big fat guy that was gassed out before half time even started.
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Funny how mentioning Catapano as a potential impact player before training camp would get you laughed at on CP. He's going to be a stud in our nickel package.
Beating scrubs like Fisher, Fanaika and some nobody named Pugswhatever doesn't prove anything.

Most NFL teams have lineman WAY better than that.
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Beating scrubs like Fisher, Fanaika and some nobody named Pugswhatever doesn't prove anything.

Most NFL teams have lineman WAY better than that.
He was beating other starting NFL offensive linemen in his rookie season on very limited snaps and he's much bigger and stronger now. I have no doubt it will translate into the regular season.

And I definitely disagree that our Oline talent is that bad. Maybe slightly below average, but it's not going to be nearly as bad as last years.
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He was beating other starting NFL offensive linemen in his rookie season on very limited snaps and he's much bigger and stronger now. I have no doubt it will translate into the regular season.
yep he was beating them so badly to the tune of 4 career tackles and 1 career sack. the catapano career season. stuff legends are made of.

for the record I don't think our o-line talent is bad, I think those three players are though.
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Funny how mentioning Catapano as a potential impact player before training camp would get you laughed at on CP. He's going to be a stud in our nickel package.
He's a joke and another practice teamer.

From C -->RT is a JOKE.

Not even respectable other than a beat up Stephenson...
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Not saying you are wrong, but this reminds me of Clay the entire week leading up to the NE game.

"Wilfork is going to destroy this team"



I seem to remember him as the big fat guy that was gassed out before half time even started.

Hey, I never claim to be right all the time. The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know.

Obviously none of us can see the future, but we did have Hudson back then. You're likely talking about a pretty steep drop off in ability between Hudson and Kush, especially given the fact that this will be Kush's third start (?).

We could come out there and dominate them, but I don't think that'd be a safe bet. Wilfork and Watt will be terrors.
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yep he was beating them so badly to the tune of 4 career tackles and 1 career sack. the catapano career season. stuff legends are made of.

for the record I don't think our o-line talent is bad, I think those three players are though.
http://youtu.be/NibU5suFPR4

Check out some of his plays against the jags, Giants, packers and chargers his rookie year. He flashed some pass rush ability, but he didn't get many opportunities because he was a 7th round rookie and Sutton for some reason has never rotated regularly.
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He's a joke and another practice teamer.

From C -->RT is a JOKE.

Not even respectable other than a beat up Stephenson...
Can't wait for all you stupid pessimistic ****s to eat crow on him and this Oline being anywhere near as bad as last year.
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Can't wait for all you stupid pessimistic ****s to eat crow on him and this Oline being anywhere near as bad as last year.
Based on what?

Perhaps you are right and we end up respectable.

Based on whAT? Because of where they were drafted?

Because they maxed out in the weight room?

What?
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Hey, I never claim to be right all the time. The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know.

Obviously none of us can see the future, but we did have Hudson back then. You're likely talking about a pretty steep drop off in ability between Hudson and Kush, especially given the fact that this will be Kush's third start (?).

We could come out there and dominate them, but I don't think that'd be a safe bet. Wilfork and Watt will be terrors.
I'm the same way.
Cracks me up how stubborn people are about being wrong/right around here.

I'm very worried about Kush and the right side of the line.
Have been vocal about that for quite some time.
For all I know Wilfork will ass rape the middle.
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