Chiefs With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star) - Page 13

Marcellus · 10-10-2012, 07:45 PM

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback.
It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa.
Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality.
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore.
“This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick.
“He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.”
Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice.
“He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it.
“He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.”
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been.
He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts.
He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame.
“I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.”
Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter.
But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday.
“There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.”
Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well.
Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn.
“I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays.
“Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?)

Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury.
“He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him.
“When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.”
Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him.
The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly.
“He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there.
“He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/10...#storylink=cpy

The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF.

I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?

**mdchiefsfan** · 10-11-2012, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Is all this talk about Quinn moot? I think he's here on a 1 year contract for about $1.5M. If he does light it up, he's probably gone.

yea can't have anyone affect Cassel's confidence. He'll be Orton'd and we'll live in Cassel purgatory

chiefzilla1501 · 10-11-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I really don't think Quinn doing mediocre keeps Pioli and RAC safe.

Think you underestimate the loyalty at one arrowhead.

**007** · 10-11-2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Think you underestimate the loyalty at one arrowhead.

Pioli will NOT stick with Quinn if he can avoid it. He will ride Cassel all the way as soon as he is healthy again.

Reerun_KC · 10-11-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Think you underestimate the loyalty at one arrowhead.

I want Quinn to fail so.badly.

Danguardace · 10-11-2012, 06:42 AM

I hope Quinn blows it up on Sunday

22/35 270 yards 2 TD's

This is team is taylor made for a spark and we have a schedule which is very much salvagable. A win Sunday would be great heading into a bye where Quinn can get even more reps.

I believe in this guy

Reerun_KC · 10-11-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace

I believe in this guy

based on what?

**bevischief** · 10-11-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

based on what?

Not Cassel.

Micjones · 10-11-2012, 06:48 AM

I'm excited to see what the kid has.

Hopefully Daboll will give him some high-percentage opportunities early on Sunday so he can build some confidence.
I'm going to guess that Bowe, McCluster, and Charles get the most looks in the passing game.

Reerun_KC · 10-11-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief

Not Cassel.

Yeah that's stupid. So you.would rather lick gochiefs ass than suck his balls? Got it.

Reerun_KC · 10-11-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm excited to see what the kid has.

Hopefully Daboll will give him some high-percentage opportunities early on Sunday so he can build some confidence. I'm going to guess that we'll see lots of Bowe, McCluster, and Charles in the passing game.

Yeah this.is.how.low this franchise has gotten. Excited for.dog shit qb play.

BlackHelicopters · 10-11-2012, 06:51 AM

The headline in the Star is beyond laughable. Didn't bother to read the article.

BoneKrusher · 10-11-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief

Not Cassel.

that's how i see it as well.

Danguardace · 10-11-2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

based on what?

People keep knocking him for his time in Cleveland in 09 which was his only run as starter in his career, but did you see his group of skill position players there? It was worst than AIDS and most of those guys are not even in league anymore.

Now he has an offense which in my opinion is ready to be top 10 with a talented motivated guy at the wheel. What was Cassel's motivation? That one who sucks the penis has been able to operate with impunity for over 3 years, the fans hated him he'd already got his big contract no wonder he sucked.

I think this is the perfect storm and If I am right we have a schedule that can see us get on a roll.

Micjones · 10-11-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yeah this.is.how.low this franchise has gotten. Excited for.dog shit qb play.

You know for certain that he'll play poorly?

Deberg_1990 · 10-11-2012, 07:10 AM

The irony of all this is if Quinn plays well and wins games, it almost certainly gurantees a Pioli extension.

10-10-2012, 07:45 PM
Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3172662	With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star) By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback. It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa. Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality. So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore. “This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick. “He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.” Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice. “He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it. “He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.” So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been. He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts. He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame. “I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.” Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter. But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday. “There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.” Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well. Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn. “I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays. “Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?) Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury. “He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him. “When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.” Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him. The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly. “He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there. “He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.” Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/10...#storylink=cpy The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF. I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?
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10-11-2012, 06:42 AM	#185
Danguardace Veteran Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Shrewsbury England Casino cash: $2145590	I hope Quinn blows it up on Sunday 22/35 270 yards 2 TD's This is team is taylor made for a spark and we have a schedule which is very much salvagable. A win Sunday would be great heading into a bye where Quinn can get even more reps. I believe in this guy
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Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	I'm excited to see what the kid has. Hopefully Daboll will give him some high-percentage opportunities early on Sunday so he can build some confidence. I'm going to guess that Bowe, McCluster, and Charles get the most looks in the passing game. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong. Last edited by Micjones; 10-11-2012 at 07:01 AM..
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10-11-2012, 06:51 AM	#191
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10-11-2012, 07:10 AM	#195
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	The irony of all this is if Quinn plays well and wins games, it almost certainly gurantees a Pioli extension. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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