Chiefs Trade the 1.1 for Revis and let's do this win now shit - Page 4

Red Dawg · 03-06-2013, 09:41 PM

Fugg it. Give him phat dollas and complete the best secodary in the league. Dorsey can work his strings to get Jennings and we can beat Denver for th e div crown. Otherwise they will get Welker and roll our ass.

**Rausch** · 03-07-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Do not want. He'll be disgruntled in a couple of years. Jets are trying to dump this headache on someone else. No thanks.

No doubt. He'll cost 3x what the best CB in the draft will get...

L.A. Chieffan · 03-07-2013, 09:22 AM

ONLY if they throw in Tebow as well

**Iowanian** · 03-07-2013, 09:25 AM

I have zero desire to see Revis in KC.

He's a drama queen who is always bitching about his contract and holding out and his play and health on the field don't match the financial risk.

Brooklyn · 03-07-2013, 09:36 AM

I'd rather trade the 2014 first to someone like the Saints and take BPA at 15. They don't need the pick as much as they need their head coach. That team is already stocked with talent and will be back to their winning ways this season. Its a reasonable gamble for NOLA to trade the 15th overall this year and hope the Chiefs still suck their way to another top 5 pick next year. We can swap thirds this year for their trouble.

Take Geno 1:1, and your choice of Austin, Warmack, Trufant, or maybe someone surprising slips and you grab him. Hopefully that's enough of a talent injection, along with a new coach to get us past 15th in next year's draft, making it a net win. If we build through the draft with a slow and steady approach, our in-house talent will be dead or gone by the time the new crop matters. Chiefs need a quick turnaround and building through the draft can work if we go early and often. I'm tired of 5 year plans that turn into 15 year plans.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-07-2013, 09:38 AM

A 2-14 team should never, ever trade a future first. That's how you stay 2-14.

**Rausch** · 03-07-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

A 2-14 team should never, ever trade a future first. That's how you stay 2-14.

Yup.

If anything I'd like to trade down and gain a future first...

Brooklyn · 03-07-2013, 09:47 AM

Its always been my opinion that a future pick, regardless of the round, has the real value of one round lower. I get what you are saying about a 2-14 team gambling with its future, but it isn't like picking high in the first year after year has worked either. We just continually suck and guys want to walk, or flame out before any of it matters.

I personally like the Dorsey hire, but dislike the Reid hire. I'm hedging that this front office isn't the front office of a 2-14 team and will make some worthwhile choices. You're correct, it's a big, stupid gamble but if it gives these guys the cushion they think they need to get a QB 1:1 this year, then I'd be all in.

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Yup.

If anything I'd like to trade down and gain a future first...

if that's on the table I could get down with that also.

NJChiefsFan · 03-07-2013, 09:58 AM

Guys haven't walked on us. We resigned most of the players we wanted save for one that we could unassigned if pioli had locked him up when he should have.

Brooklyn · 03-07-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Guys haven't walked on us. We resigned most of the players we wanted save for one that we could unassigned if ***** had locked him up when he should have.

maybe not walked exclusively, but either we've traded them away or by the time we get them a supporting cast they are just not as useful anymore. I know I'm being impatient, but I'm just thinking about who our starting ILB/OLB, RB, etc will be in three years once we've accumulated talent at all the other positions. KC is always just mediocre, never really good at all positions at the same time.

**notorious** · 03-07-2013, 10:09 AM

Do not want, at all.

Prison Bitch · 03-07-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Do you think SF goes to the Super Bowl last year if Dick Stanzi was the backup QB?

Reid and Dorsey both see the necessity of two "starting caliber" QBs in todays NFL.

Yeah, Green Bay and New England totally agree: you need multiple QBs to win.

**Rausch** · 03-07-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Yeah, Green Bay and New England totally agree: you need multiple QBs to win.

Green Bay constantly has a possible starter at b/u. How many QB's have left the pack for starting deals elsewhere?

A bunch...

kaplin42 · 03-07-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Fugg it. Give him phat dollas and complete the best secodary in the league. Dorsey can work his strings to get Jennings and we can beat Denver for th e div crown. Otherwise they will get Welker and roll our ass.

I hate the off-season.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-07-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Yeah, Green Bay and New England totally agree: you need multiple QBs to win.

Good teams place an emphasis on having QBs.

Both Green Bay (Favre, Rodgers) and New England (Brady) have had entrenched elite starters at least since 2002.

Look at their draft history over that time frame:

Green Bay -
2012 - 7.243 BJ Coleman
2008 - 2.56 Brian Brohm
2008 - 7.209 Matt Flynn
2006 - 5.148 Ingle Martin
2005 - 1.24 Aaron Rodgers
2002 - 5.164 Craig Hall

New England -
2011 - 3.74 Ryan Mallett
2010 - 7.250 Zac Robinson
2008 - 3.94 Kevin O'Connell
2005 - 7.230 Matt Cassel
2003 - 6.201 Kliff Kingsbury
2002 - 4.117 Rohan Davey

And then look at KC's history over that same period of time:
2011 - 5.135 Ricky Stanzi
2006 - 3.85 Brodie Croyle

Game. Set. Match. DaKCMan_AP is Awesome.

dlphg9 · 03-07-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Green Bay constantly has a possible starter at b/u. How many QB's have left the pack for starting deals elsewhere?

A bunch...

Matt Flynn is the only one to leave for a "starting deal", but he didnt even start

03-06-2013, 09:41 PM
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Brooklyn Starter Join Date: Sep 2011 Casino cash: $3409730	I'd rather trade the 2014 first to someone like the Saints and take BPA at 15. They don't need the pick as much as they need their head coach. That team is already stocked with talent and will be back to their winning ways this season. Its a reasonable gamble for NOLA to trade the 15th overall this year and hope the Chiefs still suck their way to another top 5 pick next year. We can swap thirds this year for their trouble. Take Geno 1:1, and your choice of Austin, Warmack, Trufant, or maybe someone surprising slips and you grab him. Hopefully that's enough of a talent injection, along with a new coach to get us past 15th in next year's draft, making it a net win. If we build through the draft with a slow and steady approach, our in-house talent will be dead or gone by the time the new crop matters. Chiefs need a quick turnaround and building through the draft can work if we go early and often. I'm tired of 5 year plans that turn into 15 year plans.
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