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Old 05-11-2014, 11:50 AM  
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Jeff Flanagan: "Tyler Bray slow to grasp pro system"
http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...-murray-051014

In a puff piece on Aaron Murray, an interesting tidbit:

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The Chiefs already have starter Alex Smith, backup Chase Daniel and developmental quarterback Tyler Bray.

The Chiefs could save $1.4 million if they were to release Daniel. Bray, though, seems the most vulnerable. Although the Chiefs love his arm strength, he was slow to grasp the pro system.

Murray likely won't have those issues since he already has played in a pro passing system at Georgia.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:04 AM   #181
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That would suck. We need to know if he is coming along. If not, they need to give him the boot. If so, they need to increase his reps.
Agree.

They need to do something with Bray either way. The focus needs to be fully on Murray at some point.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:05 AM   #182
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Well yeah, but that would be the logical thing to do. So I don't know why you think this sort of thinking has any place on CP.
I don't see what is logical about people who don't think we are going to make the playoffs pissing away developmental snaps and possible live action by giving it to a guy who is guaranteed not to be here next season.
Please tell me how that makes sense?
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:06 AM   #183
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Agree.

They need to do something with Bray either way. The focus needs to be fully on Murray at some point.
I think Daniel gets in the way of truly evaluating either.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:08 AM   #184
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I can tell you now. Reid ain't flipping Daniel for SHIT.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:10 AM   #185
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I don't see what is logical about people who don't think we are going to make the playoffs pissing away developmental snaps and possible live action by giving it to a guy who is guaranteed not to be here next season.
Please tell me how that makes sense?
First off, I would prefer that they cut Daniel.

That being said, we know from proof on the field, that Daniel can play well against playoff-caliber competition even with all of the other 1st-team guys sitting on the bench.

We can't say that about either Bray or Murray.

If this team is 9-6 and needs a victory to clinch a playoff berth, are you really suggesting they should start Bray or Murray and "get them some snaps"?
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:10 AM   #186
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I think Daniel gets in the way of truly evaluating either.
I agree for the most part but also see my previous post.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:14 AM   #187
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First off, I would prefer that they cut Daniel.

That being said, we know from proof on the field, that Daniel can play well against playoff-caliber competition even with all of the other 1st-team guys sitting on the bench.

We can't say that about either Bray or Murray.

If this team is 9-6 and needs a victory to clinch a playoff berth, are you really suggesting they should start Bray or Murray and "get them some snaps"?
If you prefer that they cut Daniel....are you?
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:16 AM   #188
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I don't see what is logical about people who don't think we are going to make the playoffs pissing away developmental snaps and possible live action by giving it to a guy who is guaranteed not to be here next season.
Please tell me how that makes sense?
How does giving up on an 11 win NFL team in May make any sense?
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Chiefs draft a QB and suddenly there is a leak that their cannon armed fan favorite UDFA can't remember the playbook. The NFL is a cruel business. I'm sure more "shortcomings" will be leaked out during camp.
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I would rather have Daniel in that situation, but I feel like keeping the other two is the approach with the most upside.
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If you prefer that they cut Daniel....are you?
For me, I don't really care about a 9-win season. That usually means the team isn't good enough to advance.

What it really comes to for me though is that I don't think Tyler Bray is worth anything at all. He doesn't offer much opportunity to actually win filling in for Smith and he doesn't have the upside long-term for the team that Murray has.

If it comes down to deciding between Bray or Daniel, I just can't really make myself care. The only reason I would lean towards cutting Daniel is because of his cap number.

EDIT: All I was really saying in my previous response is that I can understand the logic coming from people wanting to keep Daniel.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:20 AM   #192
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How does giving up on an 11 win NFL team in May make any sense?
I haven't done that. I feel we will make the POs. Do I think we will win a GD thing without AS...No.......Hell NO.
If Chase comes in and loses valiantly, as I'm positive he would,
Jack would come of it.
If Murray or Bray come in and sling it valiantly in a loss, Reid could flip that ass for a 3rd, and we would still have the other guy next season.
Regardless, Chase will be gone. And we will need another QB.
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Chiefs draft a QB and suddenly there is a leak that their cannon armed fan favorite UDFA can't remember the playbook. The NFL is a cruel business. I'm sure more "shortcomings" will be leaked out during camp.
First thing that went through my head when I noticed this thread.
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For me, I don't really care about a 9-win season. That usually means the team isn't good enough to advance.

What it really comes to for me though is that I don't think Tyler Bray is worth anything at all. He doesn't offer much opportunity to actually win filling in for Smith and he doesn't have the upside long-term for the team that Murray has.

If it comes down to deciding between Bray or Daniel, I just can't really make myself care. The only reason I would lean towards cutting Daniel is because of his cap number.
I can see where you are coming from if that's your line of thinking.
I would actually like to see Murray and Bray duke it out for the #2 spot the other guy getting the 3.

Here is my line of thinking.....
I think if Chase was out of the way and those snaps went to Murray he could come in and play as well as Chase Right Now.
If Bray is also still progressing you still have your high caliber project at 3rd QB.
Or you keep Chase, reerun Murray's development, and lose your HQ Project.

Seems simple.
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I can see where you are coming from if that's your line of thinking.
I would actually like to see Murray and Bray duke it out for the #2 spot the other guy get the other.

Here is my line of thinking.....
I think if Chase was out of the way and those snaps went to Murray he could come in and play as well as Chase Right Now.
If Bray is also still progressing you still have your high caliber project at 3rd QB.
Or you keep Chase, reerun Murray's development, and lose your HQ Project.

Seems simple.
Unless you're already quitting on your season, you don't get rid of the player who gives you the best chance to win if Smith goes down. And you don't just expect a rookie to beat out the established player without actually seeing real signs of it.

Seems simple.
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