Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

Part 2: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293623

[notorious]

I am obsessed with a 14.5+suppressor = 16" upper.

Anyone have one?


I already have a 16" without suppressor, and I like it.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

I hear you, it is pretty hard to mess up small rifle ammo, corrosive could be bad if it was not known, even an overloaded cartridge in 5.56 will most likely just break your magazine ($6-$20). An out-of-battery misfire could damage the rifle, however that most likely wouldn't be the fault of the ammo.

The worst case it would damage your upper, (new one will set you back $100) your barrel ($100-200, unless it's a nice one and then you're probably not shooting cheap ammo through it), or your bolt, possibly the carrier ($30-$150). Even if it was possible to damage the lower ($100, but I've never seen a lower damaged by ammo).

That said any part that got damaged can be replaced for about $100, seeing how steel case can save $100+ per case, you'd have to be the unluckiest person on earth to even have one yet alone more than one ka-boom per thousand rounds.

The nice thing about the AR platform is everything is interchangeable, thus if something ever breaks it can be replaced easily and cheap.
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this is all true. However I'm gonna stick with brass for now because of the reloading factor. It's all up in the air right now but I can see your point. For plinking go with the cheapo stuff, but I'd always keep some brass cartridges around just in case, maybe 500 rounds or so...

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by unlurking

My Mini-14 is not picky, and I'm looking forward to being able to shoot again. Been holding out since fall.

Exactly. The Mini will fire wads of used chewing gum as long as it was in a case and had a primer. Not picky in the least.

[pr_capone]

Magpul says **** the Civies... sets up express lane for Mil/LEO to receive PMAGS.

http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=6114

As we said, Magpul has one-upped Armalite and to add insult to injury, not only are they selling their products that are banned to civilian ownership to law-enforcement in those restrictive locales, they have established an express lane for law enforcement “professionals” to get their standard-capacity PMAGs right away… even law enforcement officers in restrictive locations such as New York which now ban sales of standard capacity magazines to civilians.

[Fairplay]

Looking at getting a Glock 26 9mm or a Glock 27 .40 caliber gun.

I like the size and fit perfect.

Which on one should i choose?

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

Looking at getting a Glock 26 9mm or a Glock 27 .40 caliber gun.

I like the size and fit perfect.

Which on one should i choose?

I have a 27, but a 9mm is cheaper to shoot and ammo is expensive these days. I don't mind the kick of the .40, but the 9mm kicks less and you can get back on target quicker.

I ended up buying a Ruger SR9c and like it a lot. Fits my hand a little better than the glock as well.

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I have a 27, but a 9mm is cheaper to shoot and ammo is expensive these days. I don't mind the kick of the .40, but the 9mm kicks less and you can get back on target quicker.

I ended up buying a Ruger SR9c and like it a lot. Fits my hand a little better than the glock as well.

Thanks, the price of the ammo has me leaning for the 26 actually also.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by frazod

Went to the range on Saturday - test fired our home-made ammo for the first time. My buddy has an old Browning 9mm that didn't seem to care for it, but all my pistols took it okay. I did have an ejection problem with my new S&W, but I don't think it's ammo related - off to the gunsmith with that one.

Follow-up on this - pistol's fine - problem was a squib load. One knock on the range we go to is it's too dark, and neither of us had a flashlight. My friend finally got a chance to look at it today and that was the problem. I guess not firing was preferable to the ****ing thing exploding in my hand.

We fired off a lot of rounds and this only happened once, but WTF? The whole idea of getting the Dillon was to avoid shit like this.

[verbaljitsu]

Frazod - Don't be discouraged, I've seen people get squib loads out of Progressives, Turrets, and Single Stage presses. The problem isn't the press.

It is tough, but not impossible, to learn how to reload on a progressive machine. It is like learning how to drive a car while you are also learning how to drive a stick shift. You are thinking about so many things that you forget to use your blinkers because you are just happy that you didn't kill the car.

It is hard to say exactly what went wrong without standing over your shoulder, but it is usually a process and not the equipment.

Potential causes:
1. Not enough powder in the case. Sometimes a squib is caused by there being NO powder, but sometimes it is just because there isn't enough. Pull a round and measure the powder charge again. Check against reloading manual.

2. Related to the above, a lot of people forget to zero their scale (balance) or to let their electronic scale warm up. Other scales are junk and you shouldn't trust them unless you are verifying them with a known weight. This results in the scale saying "5.5 grains" while there is only 4.3 or whatever actually there.

3. Powder ran out in the hopper. Pretty obvious, but I would be lying if I said it has never happened to me.

4. The powder measure is not connected to the return bar/spring. Or the spring isn't providing enough tension (i.e. tighten the wingnut). This means that the first case was getting powder, but subsequent or some of the subsequent cases were not.

5. Short Stroking the ram. Must go all the way up and all the way down, for every case. The dies do the adjusting, never the stroke.

6. The powder "bridged" in the powder measure. Some powders flow out of a powder measure better than others. Sometimes "stick" powders have a tendency to get bound up and then powder flow is restricted. This can happen for one or two rounds, or for 20. If this is the cause, then switch to a spherical powder.


Solutions:
1. Go slow
2. You should always be visually inspecting the case before you place a bullet on it.
3. You can use a powder cop die. I don't use one, but some people find them comforting, visual inspection should suffice.
4. Develop a comprehensive process...almost like a checklist. Every time I reload I do x,y,z in that order.

[verbaljitsu]

P.S. - It would not surprise me if you never have another squib load your entire life, once you get this figured out. So, don't get scared off by it. Just play detective, figure out what caused it, and fix it. And then its all good.

[Frazod]

I'll definitely never pull the handle again without making sure there's powder in the case.

Scary shit. Probably a good thing it happened, since I'll always remember it.

[LiveSteam]

Plus 1 on stick powders being finicky in P-throwers

[Munson]

Just ordered an AK-74!

Its my first time ordering a gun through the interwebs. If everything goes smoothly, I'll probably end up ordering a couple more AKs by the end of the year.

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by Munson

Just ordered an AK-74!

Its my first time ordering a gun through the interwebs. If everything goes smoothly, I'll probably end up ordering a couple more AKs by the end of the year.

how much and where?

[Bwana]

Decent deal if anyone is looking for 10mm.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23881