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Old 02-18-2013, 01:33 PM  
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****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000140130/

The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

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Old 02-19-2013, 12:15 AM   #436
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IIRC, Vick is only being paid about 3 million this year.

And you yourself have said everything we hear right now is coachspeak and smoke. So which is it with Foles?



So if Kelly see's him that way he might take him, but he won't see him that way? Ok.
Nope, Vick is making 10 million.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:15 AM   #437
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I think Geno is gonna impress with his 40 time.

There have been a couple runs where he was able to showcase his wheels. He just didn't have to in the air raid system.

If he had a coach that was worth a ****, they would have ran him a few times against KSt and Clemson because they were doing everything they could to keep everybody in coverage to force Geno to be conservative...defenses simply didn't need to prepare for something Geno has skills at.
I don't see that, to me, he's looked pretty slow when running. I doubt he runs anything under a 4.8.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:15 AM   #438
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Vick makes a max of 10 million this year...with the realistic part coming in around 7-8.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:18 AM   #439
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IIRC, and it's late so I might not be, so before I get into it, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you've been the one talking everyone off the ledge about how it doesn't matter whats being said right now.
Just going by the Philly press. They're saying no way Foles gets loose.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:18 AM   #440
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:19 AM   #441
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And if that's true, with Vick and everything, they won't take Smith.
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So they can cut Vick paying him 7 mil.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:20 AM   #443
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I don't see that, to me, he's looked pretty slow when running. I doubt he runs anything under a 4.8.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=abinH...%3DabinH3B693Y

Slow?

I'm thinking he runs a 4.65 or so.
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I just don't see Foles, Dixon or Vick being a reason for them not to take Geno, when they can get out from under both of them pretty easily.


Of course Geno has to be available and Kelly would have to like him enough to do that.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:22 AM   #445
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Slow?

I'm thinking he runs a 4.65 or so.
He may very well. But I'd be surprised if it's under 4.8. Which not that it matters, he's a pocket guy.
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When a pocket quarterback has the wheels to knife the defense for chunks of yards when they go to man coverage, it's a weapon you have to utilize.

It keeps the defense honest and forces them to count for you and that makes a receiver come open or for the defense to not e able to use many double teams. That's music to the ears of Dwayne Bowe and others...especially when they have to respect Jamaal Charles back there, too.

McNabb was a pocket guy and he still made teams pay with his legs and moved the chains.
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I just don't see Foles, Dixon or Vick being a reason for them not to take Geno, when they can get out from under both of them pretty easily.


Of course Geno has to be available and Kelly would have to like him enough to do that.
With all the stats about how high QB picks usually go to teams that have no one in the way, you're right, Kelly would have to really love Smith to scrap the other QBs that it seems they want to go with him.

I'm staying with the idea that if the Chiefs pass, Smith falls to the Cards.
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He may very well. But I'd be surprised if it's under 4.8. Which not that it matters, he's a pocket guy.
if he trains like a madman for the said event, I could see him run a 4.6. Though he's probably a 4.75 to 4.8 guy normally.
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I'm starting to accept that the Jags might be stuck with taking Geno.

But seriously I'm guessing a high 4.6 low 4.7
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