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Old 09-18-2012, 08:04 PM  
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Ethanol Sucks...my experience

Just to give a brief back story. My 02 Tacoma started getting really shitty gas mileage a while ago and I've always suspected the main culprit was the ethanol in gasoline. Ever since they started adding it my mileage has tanked.

It has a 2.7L 4cyl and I consistently got 21.5 mpg. I tried switching to synthetic oil, new plugs, fuel treatment/cleaner and bought a K&N air filter and nothing seemed to help the mileage. It had dropped to between 17 and 18 mpg....unacceptable to me.

Recently I finally I found a gas station not too far away that sells real gas....no ethanol. So I decided to try running the real gas (also using Lucas fuel treatment) and see if it made a difference.

After one tank of fuel my mileage went up to just over 20mpg. That is unreal to me and frankly it pisses me off that Ethanol is that shitty. Yet it's still put in gasoline and passed off as an improvement. I fully expect to gain a little more after another tank or two and will keep going with "real gas".

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Old 09-18-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:15 PM   #3
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"real gas"? I'm pretty sure the EPA has mandated the use of ethanol so all stations must use an ethanol blend. As for lower MPG yes, Ethanol contains around 30% less energy than the same amount as "real gas". Its not in gasoline to increase MPG's.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:22 PM   #4
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"real gas"? I'm pretty sure the EPA has mandated the use of ethanol so all stations must use an ethanol blend. As for lower MPG yes, Ethanol contains around 30% less energy than the same amount as "real gas". Its not in gasoline to increase MPG's.
There are two stations that I am aware of where i can get ethanol free gasoline in 87 octane. It's about 10 cents higher, but worth it.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:48 AM   #5
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Always assumed it, but just now confirming it for myself.



There are two stations that I am aware of where i can get ethanol free gasoline in 87 octane. It's about 10 cents higher, but worth it.
I live where there are two gas stations here that sell pure gasoline but the stations look so old im thinking they still have the old metal tanks under ground holding the gas. So I only buy for my lawn equipment.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:42 AM   #6
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:50 AM   #7
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:01 AM   #8
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I think most everyone who doesn't receive tax free gas would probably agree with you here.

I never put that shit in my tank. Luckily, every gas station in NE offers regular.

They've actually made some improvements to ethanol over the last few years but you can't polish a turd.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:08 AM   #9
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I think most everyone who doesn't receive tax free gas would probably agree with you here.

I never put that shit in my tank. Luckily, every gas station in NE offers regular.

They've actually made some improvements to ethanol over the last few years but you can't polish a turd.
Not all I have found a few that don't. That's all they sell up here.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:16 AM   #10
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Just to give a brief back story. My 02 Tacoma started getting really shitty gas mileage a while ago and I've always suspected the main culprit was the ethanol in gasoline. Ever since they started adding it my mileage has tanked.

It has a 2.7L 4cyl and I consistently got 21.5 mpg. I tried switching to synthetic oil, new plugs, fuel treatment/cleaner and bought a K&N air filter and nothing seemed to help the mileage. It had dropped to between 17 and 18 mpg....unacceptable to me.

Recently I finally I found a gas station not too far away that sells real gas....no ethanol. So I decided to try running the real gas (also using Lucas fuel treatment) and see if it made a difference.

After one tank of fuel my mileage went up to just over 20mpg. That is unreal to me and frankly it pisses me off that Ethanol is that shitty. Yet it's still put in gasoline and passed off as an improvement. I fully expect to gain a little more after another tank or two and will keep going with "real gas".

Thanks for letting me use the podium.
Heres another shocking tip. If you want better gas mileage, dump your truck for a sedan.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:32 AM   #11
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I had a friend tell me years ago that ethanol was way worse for gas mileage. I assumed it would not be because of the higher octane. As an experiment, I tried just regular unleaded, and like the OP noticed 3mpg immediately. i have not put ethanol in any of my vehicles since. It's 10 cents cheaper, but when I figured out the mileage variance, it's actually more expensive to run ethanol.

Now the same friend bought a new 2012 truck, and he says it's way better on ethanol than regular...so I guess the newer engines are designed for it? I dunno, but since a new vehicle is not in my future, it's regular gas for me...
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:56 AM   #12
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:02 AM   #13
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"real gas"? I'm pretty sure the EPA has mandated the use of ethanol so all stations must use an ethanol blend. As for lower MPG yes, Ethanol contains around 30% less energy than the same amount as "real gas". Its not in gasoline to increase MPG's.
Not a total mandate, at least most of the stations around here offer both 10% blend and plain gas.
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