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Old 01-10-2012, 02:46 PM  
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Draft Question

Assuming that we can't or don't trade up for a Franchise QB for whatever reason. What is our draft priority taking the following into consideration:

1. Our defense is extremely solid.
2. Sign Orton (battles in camp with Stanzi)
3. RB coming off major knee injury

Who would consider or be in favor of drafting the best RB available to keep Charles from being overworked as he recovers from his injury? We need to keep playmakers on the offense and I am in favor of drafting playmakers with 1st round picks.

Flame away but to me this would make perfect sense.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:27 PM   #31
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2 guys who just won playoff games. 2 guys who beat the crap out of KC. 2 Rookies. I'll give you Jackson.
You'll give me all ten players. I don't give a shit who's a rookie, you asked me if I could name 10 starting QBs worse than Cassel.

Hmmm.... how did Tebow and Yates win?

Good defense, elite run games?

Oh yes, I believe that is how they won.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #32
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I'm at the point to where I don't care as long as it's QB.

Would you rather the team tread water and take some OT or NT? Ultimately somebody who doesn't matter? Or would you rather they roll the dice to be great.

Our biggest problem is Matt Cassel. Take a chance.

If you can trade up for RG3? Great. If not? Then get the next best guy.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:30 PM   #33
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Josh Freeman worse than Cassel? Sam Bradford worse?

That's some nice reactionary bullshit on one year.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:30 PM   #34
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You'll give me all ten players. I don't give a shit who's a rookie, you asked me if I could name 10 starting QBs worse than Cassel.

Hmmm.... how did Tebow and Yates win?

Good defense, elite run games?

Oh yes, I believe that is how they won.
How many INTs did Yates have in his first postseason appearance? How many did Cassel have?

Yates: 97.7 QB rating.
Cassel: 20.4 QB rating.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:33 PM   #35
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How many INTs did Yates have in his first postseason appearance? How many did Cassel have?

Yates: 97.7 QB rating.
Cassel: 20.4 QB rating.
Please. This is stupid.

Houston's run game was on. Ours wasn't. Yates wasn't facing the Ravens defense. And he wasn't behind at any meaningful time. Cassel was, and was.

Yates also didn't have a starting receiver plucked out of obscurity four days before the game. Cassel did.

Yates managed the game very well. But the Texans would rather have had Cassel backing up Schaub if they had the power to do so, not Yates.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:35 PM   #36
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But the Texans would rather have had Cassel backing up Schaub if they had the power to do so, not Yates.
Nah.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:35 PM   #37
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Josh Freeman worse than Cassel? Sam Bradford worse?

That's some nice reactionary bullshit on one year.
It's reactionary bullshit on two. In Freeman's case, three.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:37 PM   #38
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Give me a first round pick you'd prefer over Richardson. I can only assume it will be a QB.
I'd take almost any position over a RB, regardless of who it is.

I'd take a C or RT before Richardson. I'd take just about anything on defense before Richardson.

I don't want this FO to have any more get-out-of-jail-free cards with Matt ****ing Cassel. No more safety blankets, justifications, or excuses - cut him and cut him now.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:38 PM   #40
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I'd take almost any position over a RB, regardless of who it is.

I'd take a C or RT before Richardson. I'd take just about anything on defense before Richardson.

I don't want this FO to have any more get-out-of-jail-free cards with Matt ****ing Cassel. No more safety blankets, justifications, or excuses - cut him and cut him now.
Ah.

So your primary interest is not improving the team, so much as it is sticking it to Cassel.

Sane. I'm surprised the front office doesn't have you on speed dial.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:38 PM   #41
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You'll give me all ten players. I don't give a shit who's a rookie, you asked me if I could name 10 starting QBs worse than Cassel.

Hmmm.... how did Tebow and Yates win?

Good defense, elite run games?

Oh yes, I believe that is how they won.


Tebow threw for THIRTY TWO YARDS PER ATTEMPT.

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Josh Freeman worse than Cassel? Sam Bradford worse?

That's some nice reactionary bullshit on one year.
Yeah, I almost choked up my McRib on that one.
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Ah.

So your primary interest is not improving the team, so much as it is sticking it to Cassel.

Sane. I'm surprised the front office doesn't have you on speed dial.
Cutting Cassel improves the team. Infinitely.
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Tebow threw for THIRTY TWO YARDS PER ATTEMPT.

He's just as likely to throw for 3.2 yards per attempt.
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Please. This is stupid.

Houston's run game was on. Ours wasn't. Yates wasn't facing the Ravens defense. And he wasn't behind at any meaningful time. Cassel was, and was.

Yates also didn't have a starting receiver plucked out of obscurity four days before the game. Cassel did.

Yates managed the game very well. But the Texans would rather have had Cassel backing up Schaub if they had the power to do so, not Yates.
Can we just get a pre-printed list of excuses for Matt Cassel, please?
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