I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

[Direckshun]

From the free agency megathread:

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 28s

The Raiders are signing QB Seneca Wallace after working him out, Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others

The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

1. Zero knowledge of who the Chiefs will draft? According to whom? Remember, I was the first to call Andy Reid and quite a few other moves this off season. I do have insider information, and after that article came out that said the Chiefs had the draft selection narrowed down to 4 players, my insider came back and told me the number was actually 5.

2. All we are here, on this forum, is speculation. It just happens to be that I speculate a bit more logical than some of you thinking we'll draft a QB still.

3. Dorsey also didn't say that he would ONLY take the best player available, and anyone with an IQ over 75 knows that Dorsey saying that they won't draft just for need, but will take BPA, knows that he's trying not to show his cards too early or too often, so he keeps teams guessing on what HE will be doing, which brings up the trade value in an already shitty draft. The logical option here is to trade, but with such a bad draft for top picks, it would be the mark of a truly talented GM to be able to trade out of this position. So lets see what he can do. Worst case scenario, we stay at 1.1 don't draft a QB or pass rusher, and we look forward to our season.


Considering the Chiefs have had at least 3 teams contact them about a trade in this draft, I wouldn't be so certain.

1.

2. I thought you had inside information and are not just speculating?

3. This is not a shitty draft.

[O.city]

Or, what SNR just said.

[ChiefAshhole20]

Originally Posted by O.city

I wouldn't have been upset trading for Freeman this year. IIRC, there was some talk about it.

I promise a few people would've said that about Alex Smith as well

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by O.city

I jumped on CP on my phone without logging in, so I thought I'd take you off ignore long enough to respond to this.

With the universal ignore function, I don't have to read any of your drivel, or see anyone who quotes you. It's really glorious.


Anyway, carry on.

That's a very elaborate way to comment on something you didn't know was being talked about unless you saw his comment before hand, but your comment after this suggests you didn't read SNR's comment until after this quoted post, thus proving my point, I was never on your super ignore :P

Originally Posted by MeatRock

1.

2. I thought you had inside information and are not just speculating?

3. This is not a shitty draft.

I do have inside information on what we're doing, from time to to time. it isn't by the minute, and it doesn't encompass everything.

As far as the draft goes, we've had 3 teams call in interest to a draft day trade, and we've also narrowed our selection down to 5 guys, not 4 as reported by the press.

As for the draft, it IS a shitty draft for QB's and pass rushers, as just discussed.


SOLID draft for offensive linemen though!

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Explain? Sure.

A/B comment about all of your friends building successful teams by drafting a QB in the first round. That simply is not true.

Bullshit.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

That's a very elaborate way to comment on something you didn't know was being talked about unless you saw his comment before hand, but your comment after this suggests you didn't read SNR's comment until after this quoted post, thus proving my point, I was never on your super ignore :P



I do have inside information on what we're doing, from time to to time. it isn't by the minute, and it doesn't encompass everything.

As far as the draft goes, we've had 3 teams call in interest to a draft day trade, and we've also narrowed our selection down to 5 guys, not 4 as reported by the press.

As for the draft, it IS a shitty draft for QB's and pass rushers, as just discussed.


SOLID draft for offensive linemen though!

I didn't read it, because I didn't see it until I unblocked you. He quoted you, making it blocked.

But yeah, you were on it. But this thread is just too good for you to stay on it. It's like a car crash.

[ChiefAshhole20]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

How can you say that drafting Geno is the end of our QB troubles for years?

Not a single talking head in the NFL right now thinks he could start right away, and most are calling him a project, some are even mocking him out of the 2nd round.

How would drafting a career backup, end our QB troubles?

Geno has more talent than most of the QBs Reid has worked with in his tenure, if he can get as much production out of him as Reid did with Garcia, Feeley, or Kolb, our QB troubles are done for awhile. And he doesn't need to start right away, like every single Geno supporter has said on here, you sit him until he gets it or Alex is done.

[Simply Red]

Direckshun is the only interesting person I know.


More disturbing than his drug use,though, is the fact that he's engaged to SNR, the biggest dufus in the business.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

How can you say that drafting Geno is the end of our QB troubles for years?

Not a single talking head in the NFL right now thinks he could start right away, and most are calling him a project, some are even mocking him out of the 2nd round.

How would drafting a career backup, end our QB troubles?

You're so ****ing full of shit it's pathetic. No one is mocking Geno Smith out of the 2nd round. Maybe some dumbass that blogs it living in his mothers basement.

[O.city]

So it's 5 guys, not 4 reported by teh press and John Dorsey?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

Bullshit.

You know, I could just say "Tom Brady" here, and prove your argument invalid, but instead, I'll just say Kaepernick, just to irritate you.

Originally Posted by O.city

I didn't read it, because I didn't see it until I unblocked you. He quoted you, making it blocked.

But yeah, you were on it. But this thread is just too good for you to stay on it. It's like a car crash.

Every thread I'm in is too good to ignore me in. Either I'm dead serious making solid points that idiots can't avoid arguing with, gravitating them to me like a magnet of awesomeness, OR, I'm too busy trolling those with giant egos thinking they are super smart and ahead of the rest in their knowledge of football, so that I attempt to bring them down a bit.

I'm never not entertaining.

In this case though, the point is true.

We dont' need to draft a QB in the first round of this draft with the #1 overall pick to be successful, we traded two #2's for a QB "in his prime" based on physical abilities and general QB "primes", who was a former #1. And in a draft where our current #1, would net us a #3 QB, competing for the job of #3 with a former #5 who would be a #1 this year had he been in the draft.

That's how bad this draft is.

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

Geno has more talent than most of the QBs Reid has worked with in his tenure, if he can get as much production out of him as Reid did with Garcia, Feeley, or Kolb, our QB troubles are done for awhile. And he doesn't need to start right away, like every single Geno supporter has said on here, you sit him until he gets it or Alex is done.

Geno is not better than Garcia, Kolb, or McNabb.

next argument.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

You're so ****ing full of shit it's pathetic. No one is mocking Geno Smith out of the 2nd round. Maybe some dumbass that blogs it living in his mothers basement.

Really? Isn't there a post here on the first page with him mocked out of the 1st round.

Originally Posted by O.city

So it's 5 guys, not 4 reported by teh press and John Dorsey?

Yes, 5 guys, updated after the presser.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

You know, I could just say "Tom Brady" here, and prove your argument invalid, but instead, I'll just say Kaepernick, just to irritate you.

That was already addressed. Go back and try again

[keg in kc]

Even if, by chance, some team does have Geno on their board in the 2nd round, that's not "career backup" territory. He'd need to be in the Ricky Stanzi round (5) or lower for that.

And if this is a strong draft for tackles, that's a great reason to move out of 1 if you can, because you can find tackles later in the draft who aren't all that much of a drop off from the ones projected in the top 10. Although I wouldn't call it a 'strong' tackle class. I'd call it a 'deep' tackle class. It's, much like the draft as a whole, a class that doesn't really have any true blue chippers. Joeckel's a mid-late first in a stronger class. Fisher's probably still ahead of him, but borderline top 10-15. This is not a special tackle group in any sense.

(Which doesn't help our efforts to trade down)

[O.city]

So Dorsey is a liar I guess?